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Old 07-14-2005   #41
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While the Texans may not need a top 5 TE to make it to the Super Bowl, they definitely need a lot more production from the TE spot. The Patriots and Eagles both get qood numbers from a variety of players at TE.

Patriots TE's
Graham - 30 catches, 364 yards, 7 TD's
Fauria - 16 catches, 195 yards, 2 TD's
Weaver - 8 catches, 93 yards, 0 TD's
Klecko - 3 catches, 18 yards, 0 TD's
Watson - 2 catches, 16 yards, 0 TD's
Vrabel - 2 catches, 3 yards, 2 TD's
Team Total - 61 catches, 689 yards, 11 TD's

Eagles TE's
Smith - 34 catches, 377 yards, 5 TD's
Lewis - 29 catches, 267 yards, 3 TD's
Bartrum - 5 catches, 45 yards, 1 TD
Team Total - 69 catches, 689 yards, 9 TD's

Houston TE's
Miller - 17 catches, 178 yards, 1 TD
Bruener - 4 catches, 52 yards, 0 TD's
Team Total - 21 catches, 230 yards, 1 TD
you do make a good point, we definitely need better production from the TE spot. i don't get to review games or anything like that, but is our problem from poor TE play or Carr not being able to get it to the TE? seems like DD gets alot of the catches that a TE would get on another team.
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you do make a good point, we definitely need better production from the TE spot. i don't get to review games or anything like that, but is our problem from poor TE play or Carr not being able to get it to the TE? seems like DD gets alot of the catches that a TE would get on another team.
the eagles threw a lot to westbrook and still had tight end production, but they have a pass oriented offense whereas ours is a clock eating run scheme so the limited run attempts may be why they had all the receiving production.
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We use our TE much more like Pittsburgh has used theirs in their power rushing scheme.
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We use our TE much more like Pittsburgh has used theirs in their power rushing scheme.
thats why bruener starts instead of miller. bruener is a bad pass catcher but can be a decent run blocker just needs to reduce the penalties. miller is a pass catcher but not a very punishing blocker.
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We defiantly need a Decent TE. Joppu is done. Trust me, and Miller and
Bruner are a couple of goons. Would be great to get a good TE before Training camp!!
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so any hope in rivers, murphy, or halterman the rookie? what's the word on them?
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If we had the chance to get McMichaels he would add more firepower to the Texans O FOR SURE.
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My solution is to draft another one. If Joppru FINALLY gets to play a down, it is bonus. Haven't we hit the Three-strikes-and you're-out rule yet?
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My solution is to draft another one. If Joppru FINALLY gets to play a down, it is bonus. Haven't we hit the Three-strikes-and you're-out rule yet?
that'll be next year i believe
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My solution is to draft another one. If Joppru FINALLY gets to play a down, it is bonus. Haven't we hit the Three-strikes-and you're-out rule yet?

Joppru was good in college so when he gets on the field he will be good
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I've got to disagree on this. I think Miller is a good TE, we just aren't utilizing him the way we should. He's not the total package, but he is good at what he does best. CATCHING THE BALL! Carr just doesn't hit him enough. Its andre, andre, andre, oh crap heres the rush, dump to dominick.
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Lets uhhh just kidnap Tony Gonzalez...is that legal?
way ahead of you, bud.
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Joppru was good in college so when he gets on the field he will be good
I think theres a good chance Bennie may never play a down in a Texans uni IMO. Not bashing the guy as I would LOVE to see him get out there and kick some butt like he was intended to do, but his body hasnt co-operated. Honestly I look for the Texans to really grade him hard next year and he will have to produce tangible, regular, repeatable results by camp next year or he could be cut in Training camp IMO. Honestly at that point you have to wonder about his level of desire to play and his competitiveness and football skills after not playing hardly a down 3 years in a row and what he will produce on the field and if it's worth what your paying him or is it more fiscally responsible to cut him and re-sign him if they intend to keep him to a min contract with incentives based on playing time.
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Honestly at that point you have to wonder about his level of desire to play and his competitiveness and football skills after not playing hardly a down 3 years in a row ...
IMO it is totally unfair to question the desire of someone who just went down with a torn knee ligament after recovering from a detached ligament in his groin. Do you seriously think more desire & competitiveness would have held those ligaments together? This isn't some guy with bruised muscles and strains that can't be objectively verified. These are deals requiring surgery. Fans really need to ease up on trying to look into players' heads.
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IMO it is totally unfair to question the desire of someone who just went down with a torn knee ligament after recovering from a detached ligament in his groin. Do you seriously think more desire & competitiveness would have held those ligaments together? This isn't some guy with bruised muscles and strains that can't be objectively verified. These are deals requiring surgery. Fans really need to ease up on trying to look into players' heads.
i dont think he was trying to blame bennie's weak knees/groin/ligaments etc on his (lack of) desire, but stating that maybe it will be hard to light the fire under him after 3 years off the field.

i would disagree - after 3 years away, especially after all the hard work in training/re-hab, i think the guy will be screaming to get out on the field and hit someone, catch a pass, make a block. it must be the most frustrating thing ni the world for pro-athletes to suffer through injuries, and this guys had more than his fair share.

but you're right - we have no way of looking into the guy's head, whatever happens.
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I think Bennie should try his luck for one of the NFL Europe teams if he can ever get healthy. If he does well, like Ragone, then the team will want to see if he can take the next step and be good enough to stick around.
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Joppru isn't a project, he is just injured.
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Okay do you guys think there were quality TEs left on the 3rd round? The Morency pick really gets me going "uhhhhhh..... wth.....". Now were signing DD to a long term contract? Ehhhh just dont make and sort of sense.

there is always the option of giving him some playing time and show that he can produce and get his stock up. then we trade him to some one that needs a rb such as the bowns for a draft pick or a tight end.
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i just checked and in the 5th round this guy was still available. it sounds like he could be fairly effective if given the chance. check him out. and he was taken by St. Louis in the 5th /144th pick.

www.nfl.com/draft/drafttracker/position/TE

his name is Jerome Collins
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I have Collins on both my dynasty teams and he is a project and will take a few years to develop. Should be a solid special teamer. He is in a Peek/Wand-type 3 year grooming situation.
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