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Old 07-08-2005   #21
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yeah, last reported, he's nicked up pretty good...........errrr bad.
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Old 07-08-2005   #22
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He could help David's pocket prescence. Last time I saw him, it was on Sportscenter teaching chinese kids how to throw footballs. They looked like they could start for the bears...
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Old 07-08-2005   #23
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I'm pretty sure Lewis was considering retirement. I think it's doubtful that he'll play anywhere this season.
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I highly doubt the dolphins lets him go. He is young, I think only 26 and easily the best TE in the division. I would be very surprised is they let one of their key components on offense go. Especially with the QB situation they need all the help they can get.
We could always trade Ragone for him
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I'm pretty sure Lewis was considering retirement. I think it's doubtful that he'll play anywhere this season.
Well, just like Bubba from the Bay, he seems only interested in rejoining his former team. Anyway, i think Rogane...err....Ragone should be traded this month, it doesn't seem his stock will be higher for a while. And I'd like to take this chance to remind everyone that Tony Gonzalez is entering a contract year.
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Old 07-08-2005   #26
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And I'd like to take this chance to remind everyone that Tony Gonzalez is entering a contract year.
Gonzalez signed a 7 year contract with the Chiefs in 2002.
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Gonzalez signed a 7 year contract with the Chiefs in 2002.
He was on the Best Damn Sports Show period last night and one of the guys said that Tony Gonzalez was one of the best, but was being payed only 3 million a year. Tony said he was entering a contract year and hopefully will get more money.
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1) Tony Gonzalez
2) Shannon Sharpe
3) Ozzie Newsome
4) Mike Ditka
5) Mike Vrabel
how can you leave out winslow sr.?
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how can you leave out winslow sr.?
i dunno. I just never heard about Tony Gonzalez go after his records.
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Old 07-09-2005   #31
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Mike Vrabel? I hope that was a joke.

And it said ALL AROUND TE.....that should knock Sharpe down a few nothces and Ditka UP.

Did ya'll forget about Todd Heap? Keith Jackson from the Eagles back in the days? Ben Coates?

Gonzalez might be the best playing today and honestly at this point he's #2 on my list to A. Gates.

But that all time list ya'll put up was a joke.
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Mike Vrabel? I hope that was a joke.

And it said ALL AROUND TE.....that should knock Sharpe down a few nothces and Ditka UP.

Did ya'll forget about Todd Heap? Keith Jackson from the Eagles back in the days? Ben Coates?

Gonzalez might be the best playing today and honestly at this point he's #2 on my list to A. Gates.

But that all time list ya'll put up was a joke.
u just realized that? anyway, Gates has had one, count it one, good year, and how many has Gonzo had? He is also the only Latino worth knowing in the NFL.
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u just realized that? anyway, Gates has had one, count it one, good year, and how many has Gonzo had? He is also the only Latino worth knowing in the NFL.
i agree gonzalez is better. gates was good last year but tony was even better, 102 catches! maybe not as many td's but he was the cheifs only threat and he still kept producing
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Career wise yes Gonzales is better than Gates but like I said if we are going on who i'd take right now. I'd take Gates over Gonzo on youth.

There just aren't the all around TE's like their use to be. Now it seems like all of them "specialize" in catching or receiving like Fullbacks.
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my original question was suppose to be top 5 current all around TEs. i also forgot the point i was intending to make. so anyway, who's the top 5 all around TEs currently?
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oh, i remember my original point. notice how none of the top 5 current TEs were in the superbowl? we don't need a top TE to make it the big dance.
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Career wise yes Gonzales is better than Gates but like I said if we are going on who i'd take right now. I'd take Gates over Gonzo on youth.

There just aren't the all around TE's like their use to be. Now it seems like all of them "specialize" in catching or receiving like Fullbacks.
i would take gonzo right now. Gates is overrated. Their styles are similar, both being ex-basketball players and grabbing passes down like rebounds. Gates may be younger, which makes him less experienced. :brickwall
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oh, i remember my original point. notice how none of the top 5 current TEs were in the superbowl? we don't need a top TE to make it the big dance.
While the Texans may not need a top 5 TE to make it to the Super Bowl, they definitely need a lot more production from the TE spot. The Patriots and Eagles both get qood numbers from a variety of players at TE.

Patriots TE's
Graham - 30 catches, 364 yards, 7 TD's
Fauria - 16 catches, 195 yards, 2 TD's
Weaver - 8 catches, 93 yards, 0 TD's
Klecko - 3 catches, 18 yards, 0 TD's
Watson - 2 catches, 16 yards, 0 TD's
Vrabel - 2 catches, 3 yards, 2 TD's
Team Total - 61 catches, 689 yards, 11 TD's

Eagles TE's
Smith - 34 catches, 377 yards, 5 TD's
Lewis - 29 catches, 267 yards, 3 TD's
Bartrum - 5 catches, 45 yards, 1 TD
Team Total - 69 catches, 689 yards, 9 TD's

Houston TE's
Miller - 17 catches, 178 yards, 1 TD
Bruener - 4 catches, 52 yards, 0 TD's
Team Total - 21 catches, 230 yards, 1 TD

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Here are the numbers for Houston TE's in the first 3 seasons.

2004
Miller - 17 catches, 178 yards, 1 TD
Bruener - 4 catches, 52 yards, 0 TD's
Team Total - 21 catches, 230 yards, 1 TD

2003
Miller - 40 catches, 355 yards, 3 TD's
Holloway - 8 catches, 84 yards, 0 TD's
Team Total - 48 catches, 439 yards, 3 TD's

2002
Miller - 51 catches, 615 yards, 3 TD's
Holloway - 7 catches, 73 yards, 0 TD's
Team Total - 58 catches, 688 yards, 3 TD's
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the first season billy miller was david's security blanket. like DD is now. if we can get that kind of production this season from him without the receivers performance dropping off we should have a much better record.
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