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Help Wanted...Kicker

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Mr.Scarface

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Now Hiring: A short man with powerful, accurate leg. Must be able to kick a football. Experienced preferred. Apply at Kirby Drive, Reliant Stadium. Ask for Gary or Rick.
 
You guys might need to start worrying about Foster also, looks really malcontent and isn't exactly getting any younger.
 
Yeah. Kickers are not something to get sentimental about. He is a 5th round pick who isn't working out. Those were long kicks but the number of misses (those counted and the ones that got iced by Munchak) are hard to ignore. The Texans need to be investigating free agent kickers tomorrow. Maybe even later today.

Bullock isn't going to cut it.
 
I wonder how long a leash he's going to get. 20% is pitiful. I know the misses were fairly long but an NFL kicker should be at least 50% from 50+ yards.
 
Thorn said:
It would be quite an understatement to say I'm disappointed in Bullock.
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I am disappointed as well, but kickers need time to progress as well. I remember watching Matt Prater as a rookie playing for Denver. Fans were calling for his head because he kept missing kicks.

Prater's now regarded as one of the "elite" kickers in the league. So I'm willing to stick with Bullock for a bit and see what he has. He obviously has the leg strength, and that's already half of what he needs as a kicker.
 
Mr. Texan said:
dude is blowin it.

but he's still young and an aggie so he isn't going anywhere
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I don't think his age or the "Aggie Connection" will save him. That stuff has to be more or less automatic and he's a train wreck back there. We've seen kickers sent packing for far less than he's done in just two weeks. Maybe last weeks game winner buys him some more time but look in his eyes. That young man is thinking too much and he's going to keep missing. There's not a doubt in my mind that the Texans coaches are thinking the same thing.

I bet Bullock doesn't make it two more weeks without some incredible, unforeseen change in his performance
 
Today confirms that last year's injury wasn't the cause of Bullock's inaccuracy. We must find a kicker or it's going to be a long season (which it may be anyway.) But he should be cut even before somebody else is found.
 
CretorFrigg said:
I am disappointed as well, but kickers need time to progress as well. I remember watching Matt Prater as a rookie playing for Denver. Fans were calling for his head because he kept missing kicks.

Prater's now regarded as one of the "elite" kickers in the league. So I'm willing to stick with Bullock for a bit and see what he has. He obviously has the leg strength, and that's already half of what he needs as a kicker.
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I would give him one more game. Two at most.
 
Scarecrow said:
You guys might need to start worrying about Foster also, looks really malcontent and isn't exactly getting any younger.
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I'm not worried about Foster. Look at the game in San Diego then re-watch this one. The guy, imo, hardly even looked like the same running back. I see even more improvement to come as he gets more in-game reps. I do loves me some Tate, though.
 
Looks like Randy has developed what they call in golf a two-way miss -- has to take one side out of it.
 
Texans Twitter:

"He's got to be a pro and bounce back. He's our kicker and we have confidence in him." Kubiak on @randybullock28
 
PapaL said:
Texans Twitter:

"He's got to be a pro and bounce back. He's our kicker and we have confidence in him." Kubiak on @randybullock28
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Understand. Meaningless though. I wouldn't expect him to say anything else for another week, maybe two. If this continues they'll go in another direction. Too much riding on this season. The Texans think they're going to contend for a Super Bowl appearance this year. Bad kicking isn't going to allowed to derail that I don't think.
 
I'll say it here too, even specialist have to have some time to get used to the pressure of the NFL.

He has the distance at least, they aren't sending him out there for 50 yard kicks if he's missing it in practice.
 
Where we need the help wanted sign is for the OLB spot. B. Reed and Mercilus are not getting to the QB. All the pressure is coming from the interior line.
 
I'm certainly not about to give up on the kid after this short time. Obviously the leash is getting shorter because, as Herv said, we have a lot riding on this year. We can't afford to call the 1-yard line to place to get for Bullock to get into FG range. He'll come around. We know he has the foot.

As we speak I'll bet he's in the film room, at the players request, watching Dre's beatdown on Courtney Innegan with the players whispering in his ear "next week...no pressure....but.........."

:bender:
 
Hervoyel said:
Understand. Meaningless though. I wouldn't expect him to say anything else for another week, maybe two. If this continues they'll go in another direction. Too much riding on this season. The Texans think they're going to contend for a Super Bowl appearance this year. Bad kicking isn't going to allowed to derail that I don't think.
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Concur. This isn't the week tho. We've carried him too long to cut him after 3 long range misses. One bad game happens, two bad games and it's a trend.
 
PockyAF said:
your ****ing kidding right?
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Kidding? No I'm not. Maybe you are watching different players but what has Brooks reed And Mercilus done to get to the QB? Both can't shed blocks to save their lives. Reed in my opinion is more suited to be an inside LB because as an OLB, he aint getting it done.
 
Cut him immediately. Kickers really have one job to do. It's the easiest player to replace.
He's already missed 4 kicks this season. There were 11 kickers who missed less than 4 kicks all of last year.
 
Hervoyel said:
I don't think his age or the "Aggie Connection" will save him. That stuff has to be more or less automatic and he's a train wreck back there. We've seen kickers sent packing for far less than he's done in just two weeks. Maybe last weeks game winner buys him some more time but look in his eyes. That young man is thinking too much and he's going to keep missing. There's not a doubt in my mind that the Texans coaches are thinking the same thing.

I bet Bullock doesn't make it two more weeks without some incredible, unforeseen change in his performance
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Yes, I think 30 yarders are supposed to be automatic, but not 50 yard kicks. Not many kickers can knock down 50 yard kicks, you can probably count them on one hand.
 
The guy his hitting the ball very well.... I would be down on him otherwise. I think he is going to be great if he can get through this early psychological hurdle created by some unusual circumstances .. We will see. I sure wouldn't cut him for a street vet u less he falls apart . His kickoffs are amazing. He has a great leg!
 
Brisco_County said:
It's his second game ever in the NFL, and he was missing from 50 yards out. People need to chill.
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A kicker being 1 of 5 after his first two games is a reason for concern. Lots of kickers don`t miss 4 kicks in a whole season. Like I said, if he can handle the pressure, give him another game. If he crumbles under the pressure we should call some veterans. We want a title run, we can`t wait for our kicker to turn it around. He almost cost us the game today.
 
Brisco_County said:
It's his second game ever in the NFL, and he was missing from 50 yards out. People need to chill.
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He's 1 for 4. He doesn't play for a team on the rise. He plays for a team that has SB aspirations, and therefore need a clutch kicker. The extra misses on the iced attempts didn't help anyone's confidence level.
 
Okay our "rookie" kicker out of A&M missed TWO out of THREE in SanDiego and missed THREE out of THREE today. I KNOW I couldn't kick a field goal, but I'm also not being PAID to do so. One of the field goals he missed could have had us up 10 to 7. Had he made both the Texans would have lead 18 to 14 at one point. Had he made JUST ONE of the three there would have been NO NEED FOR AN OVERTIME! Here's what we know. As a kicker you don't:

a. Have to throw, catch or RUN with the football.
b. tackle if you don't really want to.

You have ONE responsibility to LAUNCH the ball down field over a 10 foot horizontal beam and through two vertical beams attached to it. THAT'S IT! THAT is your entire JOB! Are you expected to be PERFECT at it? Nope the only "perfect" individual who ever lived wound up being crucified. Can you expect to keep your job with a 33% success ratio one week and a 0% success rate the FOLLOWING week?

Like I said. I CAN NOT KICK A FIELD GOAL. and won't pretend I can, but I'm also not in the NFL. Who should the Texans pick up to replace this mook? He needs to be GONE.
 
I agree that he needs to be doing better, but let's not forget that most of his misses were from around 50 yards. Those are tough kicks to make for even the better kickers.

If he starts missing from 30 yards out, we need to be looking in a different direction.
 
There have been some really good kickers who had a little trouble there first few games then turned it around and became great. Let's give him a little more time.
 
utahmark said:
There have been some really good kickers who had a little trouble there first few games then turned it around and became great. Let's give him a little more time.
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Fair enough, but if he looks as bad next week I'm starting an online petition to not only have him booted from the Texans but to not allow him TO WATCH football anymore.
 
hradhak said:
I agree that he needs to be doing better, but let's not forget that most of his misses were from around 50 yards. Those are tough kicks to make for even the better kickers.

If he starts missing from 30 yards out, we need to be looking in a different direction.
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He's missed all four 50 yarders he's attempted. Average kickers will make at least one, probably two. Furthermore, he was kicking in beautiful weather with no wind and no precipitation. If the Texans chances to go to the playoffs are resting on Bullock's leg in Nashville on Dec. 29th, how's that going to make us all feel? Or how about the chance to advance in the playoffs on the road in Foxboro or Baltimore or Denver?

This is the NFL. I'm not interested in making or hearing excuses for the guy. If these were kicks in the rain or snow or wind (or a combination), I'd be listening. But they weren't. He needs to have made a couple of those.
 
noxiousdog said:
Wrong.
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Doesn't disprove my point though. I didn't say just making a 50 yard kick, I said knocking them down as if it's some automatic thing and to be expected. It's not. He missed difficult kicks, it's not like he missed chip shots.

A lot of those guys aren't taking many of them. Some of the best ones (Zurlein...) has missed about half of them.
 
Is Tony Zendejas available? :kitten:

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fiasco west said:
Doesn't disprove my point though. I didn't say just making a 50 yard kick, I said knocking them down as if it's some automatic thing and to be expected. It's not. He missed difficult kicks, it's not like he missed chip shots.

A lot of those guys aren't taking many of them. Some of the best ones (Zurlein...) has missed about half of them.
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I'm still scratching my head as to how Bullock was drafted when Zurlein was still available (had to be an Aggie Kubiak pressure). But I think you need to review Zurlein's stats a little closer............in the past 2 years, he has routinely hit on 50-60 ydrs (13 in 2012).......not to mention the 45-50 ydrs.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I'm still scratching my head as to how Bullock was drafted when Zurlein was still available (had to be an Aggie Kubiak pressure). But I think you need to review Zurlein's stats a little closer............in the past 2 years, he has routinely hit on 50-60 ydrs (13 in 2012).......not to mention the 45-50 ydrs.
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He was 7 of 13 beyond the 50 last year. Overall accuracy was 74.2%.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I'm still scratching my head as to how Bullock was drafted when Zurlein was still available (had to be an Aggie Kubiak pressure). But I think you need to review Zurlein's stats a little closer............in the past 2 years, he has routinely hit on 50-60 ydrs (13 in 2012).......not to mention the 45-50 ydrs.
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That's why I mentioned Zurlein, he's known as one of the elite kickers in the NFL and while he's made the most of them, it's not the best percentage. (from 50 yards or more)

All I am saying though is that 50 yard kicks are not gimmes or automatic kicks. Bulloch is 0-4 on those right now I think, or 0-3 I think? I'm not excusing him but he missed 2 50 yarders this game, and a 46 yarder IIRC. It's some tough luck, I think the guy has the leg (he made the 51 yarder that the Titans called a TO on, right down the middle) and it has to be a pressure thing. Hopefully he'll get over it because I do think he has the leg to become kicker that has the distance...but if he doesn't then we should be able to get any vet kicker that is more reliable.

Either way, he hasn't missed what I'd call a gimme kick yet.
 
fiasco west said:
That's why I mentioned Zurlein, he's known as one of the elite kickers in the NFL and while he's made the most of them, it's not the best percentage. (from 50 yards or more)

All I am saying though is that 50 yard kicks are not gimmes or automatic kicks. Bulloch is 0-4 on those right now I think, or 0-3 I think? I'm not excusing him but he missed 2 50 yarders this game, and a 46 yarder IIRC. It's some tough luck, I think the guy has the leg (he made the 51 yarder that the Titans called a TO on, right down the middle) and it has to be a pressure thing. Hopefully he'll get over it because I do think he has the leg to become kicker that has the distance...but if he doesn't then we should be able to get any vet kicker that is more reliable.

I agree with you about these not being gimmes. But when you look at Zurlein's college FG stats, they were been laden with 50-60 ydrs.......Bullock's were not. Zurlein's college long FG stats have been predictable of his NFL performance........so has Bullock's.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Zurlein's college long FG stats have been predictable of his NFL performance........so has Bullock's.
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So Bullock has hit 60% of his over 50 yd attempts in the NFL (he was 3 of 5 in college)?

I don't see how his college record points to the results so far in the NFL.
 
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