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Old 09-10-2013   #1
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Default Fire Lestar Jean Thread

Don't know why anyone still likes the guy, and he made two boneheaded plays that killed all of our offensive momentum.
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I hope he cleans this up in the future, or he will be replace by a Lemon!
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Default Re: Fire Lestar Jean Thread

Did he ever come back in the game? I don't remember him being on the field at all in the second half. Rightfully so.
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Don't know why anyone still likes the guy, and he made two boneheaded plays that killed all of our offensive momentum.
I'm far from a Jean fan, but he made 2 very correctable mistakes. He'll start seeing the field less as Posey gets more healthy.
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Did he ever come back in the game? I don't remember him being on the field at all in the second half. Rightfully so.
Especially since DeAndre turned it up in the 2nd half.
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jean, newton, and keo on defense. if we can correct those personnel errors (and will for two of them), we are significantly upgraded.
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I'm far from a Jean fan, but he made 2 very correctable mistakes. He'll start seeing the field less as Posey gets more healthy.
I wouldn't even try to correct it. 9 times out of 10, neither gets called. Ok... 8 out of 10.

The first player he got locked up with fell backwards, had nothing to do with the play, wasn't going after the ball.

The second one, he fell backwards & the player he was engaged with was running over him.

He let go a half a second too late.

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I didn't see much out of Jean, but I thought both of his calls were pretty ticky tack stuff. Those kinda blocks happen on every play and they never get flagged
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Wait until mistakes are confirmed to be a pattern before calling for someone's head.
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I wouldn't even try to correct it. 9 times out of 10, neither gets called. Ok... 8 out of 10.

The first player he got locked up with fell backwards, had nothing to do with the play, wasn't going after the ball.

The second one, he fell backwards & the player he was engaged with was running over him.

He let go a half a second too late.

No big deal.
Ok.. TK what part of holding do you understand? I do not understand why you think this was a minor hold it was glaring obvious in the middle of the field both times.

#1 you can't hold outside the shoulder pads which he clearly did, then pulled on the jersey on the outside this will get flagged 99% of the time.

#2 if you are falling down and clearly grab the jersey and pull down the guy you are blocking this will get flagged 99% of the time as well.

I'm not sure why you think these plays were ok.
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I wouldn't even try to correct it. 9 times out of 10, neither gets called. Ok... 8 out of 10.

The first player he got locked up with fell backwards, had nothing to do with the play, wasn't going after the ball.

The second one, he fell backwards & the player he was engaged with was running over him.

He let go a half a second too late.

No big deal.
I'm with you that they could have easily been no calls, but with experience he'll learn how to not even make it close. Not releasable offenses in my view though.
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I'm with you that they could have easily been no calls, but with experience he'll learn how to not even make it close. Not releasable offenses in my view though.
Most holds never get called. If so JJ Watt would draw a flag on every play.
The refs were ticky tack on a lot of calls this game. The holds especially.
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The refs were ticky tack on a lot of calls this game. The holds especially.
It's easier to call a hold on the outside. Jean was unnecessarily holding on both plays. We don't know if or how many other plays that he held, because they weren't called. A clear example of a guy who doesn't know what he's doing. He's not a NFL WR.
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Default Re: Fire Lestar Jean Thread

I would bring in Leon Washington and Joshua Cribbs. If both are healthy, I would sign 1,let martin focus on the slot,and cut jean. Cribbs or Washington upgrades the kick and punt teams instantly. Cribbs can be the 5th wr, washington can be the 3ri
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I would bring in Leon Washington and Joshua Cribbs. If both are healthy, I would sign 1,let martin focus on the slot,and cut jean. Cribbs or Washington upgrades the kick and punt teams instantly. Cribbs can be the 5th wr, washington can be the 3ri
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jean, newton, and keo on defense. if we can correct those personnel errors (and will for two of them), we are significantly upgraded.
Keo made 2 HUGE plays today. Not a huge fan of his but can't put him in the errors mark for today at least.

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Keo made 2 HUGE plays today. Not a huge fan of his but can't put him in the errors mark for today at least.

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he made one huge play, and it was on special teams. i'm looking at the replay and cant say the ball gets caught regardless (yes it was a great hit). he also let several go. the first play of the second half is the first to come to mind. that play doesnt get made with reed on the field because A) the ball doesnt get thrown, or B) reed picks it off. keo is too slow to the ball, on that play joseph is absolutely perfect and keo is 4 yards behind.
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he made one huge play, and it was on special teams. i'm looking at the replay and cant say the ball gets caught regardless (yes it was a great hit). he also let several go. the first play of the second half is the first to come to mind. that play doesnt get made with reed on the field because A) the ball doesnt get thrown, or B) reed picks it off. keo is too slow to the ball, on that play joseph is absolutely perfect and keo is 4 yards behind.
Yah on the first play of the half he just stood and watched JJ fight the guy for the ball you got to get in there and at least get a hit on the guy and try to break the ball free.
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he made one huge play, and it was on special teams. i'm looking at the replay and cant say the ball gets caught regardless (yes it was a great hit). he also let several go. the first play of the second half is the first to come to mind. that play doesnt get made with reed on the field because A) the ball doesnt get thrown, or B) reed picks it off. keo is too slow to the ball, on that play joseph is absolutely perfect and keo is 4 yards behind.
It was Keo's audible on the fake punt, Kubiak had no Idea until the play was snapped. Good call by Keo.... I heard him talk about it on the post game show......
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It was Keo's audible on the fake punt, Kubiak had no Idea until the play was snapped. Good call by Keo.... I heard him talk about it on the post game show......
dont get me wrong, i have no problem what so ever with keo, i absolutely love specialists. my problem is that keo is a specialist and has no business playing defense. braman only slighty less so - and only because he's in more of a hustle position. these guys are special teamers, great special teamers - but ONLY special teamers. he was the weakest link - not crick or swearinger or mccain. dilfer was correct when saying that san diego kept exploiting matchups ... those matchups are tilted much more in our favor with glover quin or ed reed on the back end.
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