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Old 04-25-2014   #1
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Default Falcons ‘most likely’ partner if Texans deal No. 1 pick in 2014 NFL draft

http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/24/atlanta...014-nfl-draft/

I know there is all sorts of scuttlebutt out there about what the Texans are doing with their #1 pick, but I thought I'd ask the question: If the Texans do trade back, what would you think they should get in return? (Assuming the report is true and the Texans would trade with the Falcons)

I would think:

Falcons get--
#1 pick of the 1st Round (2014)

Texans get--
#6 pick of the 1st Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2nd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 3rd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2014 1st Round (2015)

By all accounts this is a deep draft. The Texans can get their pick at #6. They also pick up much needed extra picks in the first round, not to mention having two 1st round picks in the 2015 Draft. I would feel much better going forward with the Texans picking 5 times in the first 3 rounds.

What do y'all think?
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If a team offered that I'd pee in my pants whilst jumping up and down.

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http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/24/atlanta...014-nfl-draft/

I know there is all sorts of scuttlebutt out there about what the Texans are doing with their #1 pick, but I thought I'd ask the question: If the Texans do trade back, what would you think they should get in return? (Assuming the report is true and the Texans would trade with the Falcons)

I would think:

Falcons get--
#1 pick of the 1st Round (2014)

Texans get--
#6 pick of the 1st Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2nd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 3rd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2014 1st Round (2015)

By all accounts this is a deep draft. The Texans can get their pick at #6. They also pick up much needed extra picks in the first round, not to mention having two 1st round picks in the 2015 Draft. I would feel much better going forward with the Texans picking 5 times in the first 3 rounds.

What do y'all think?
I like it a lot, but it's even better since Atlanta has the #5 pick in the second round and the #4 pick in the third round this year. The first next year would probably be in the 20's
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Default Re: Falcons ‘most likely’ partner if Texans deal No. 1 pick in 2014 NFL draft

That trade don't make sense. That's just too many picks to give away just to move up 5 spots, come on now. ATL does not have a lot of quality picks. They have TWO 7th rounders and such, and they have a lot of holes to fill. O line, TE ( Tony gonzales replacement ) pass rush....etc

We lucky if they do 1st round + 2nd round + 4th round pick for our 1st.
That's what i would ask if I was GM.
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That trade don't make sense. That's just too many picks to give away just to move up 5 spots, come on now. ATL does not have a lot of quality picks. They have TWO 7th rounders and such, and they have a lot of holes to fill. O line, TE ( Tony gonzales replacement ) pass rush....etc

We lucky if they do 1st round + 2nd round + 4th round pick for our 1st.
That's what i would ask if I was GM.
Agreed. Atlanta's GM would be ran out of town on a rail for making that deal. Atlanta needs to nail this draft as badly as the Texans do and they are also more than a couple of players away.
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Default Re: Falcons ‘most likely’ partner if Texans deal No. 1 pick in 2014 NFL draft

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I would think:

Falcons get--
#1 pick of the 1st Round (2014)

Texans get--
#6 pick of the 1st Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2nd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 3rd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2014 1st Round (2015)
Curious why you didn't include the Falcons second rounder from 2015? Too much?
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That trade don't make sense. That's just too many picks to give away just to move up 5 spots, come on now. ATL does not have a lot of quality picks. They have TWO 7th rounders and such, and they have a lot of holes to fill. O line, TE ( Tony gonzales replacement ) pass rush....etc

We lucky if they do 1st round + 2nd round + 4th round pick for our 1st.
That's what i would ask if I was GM.
It all depends on how bad they want Clowney. When the Falcons made a similar trade for Julio Jones they traded their 1st (27th overall), 2nd (59th), 4th (124th overall) round picks in 2011 and their 1st & 4th in 2012. Moving up to #1 for Clowney for that package doesn't seem outlandish in comparison.
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uh, yes PLEASE.


swap 1'st. we get their 2nd and 4th. they get our 5th and we get their 1st next year.
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Default Re: Falcons ‘most likely’ partner if Texans deal No. 1 pick in 2014 NFL draft

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http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/24/atlanta...014-nfl-draft/

I know there is all sorts of scuttlebutt out there about what the Texans are doing with their #1 pick, but I thought I'd ask the question: If the Texans do trade back, what would you think they should get in return? (Assuming the report is true and the Texans would trade with the Falcons)

I would think:

Falcons get--
#1 pick of the 1st Round (2014)

Texans get--
#6 pick of the 1st Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2nd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 3rd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2014 1st Round (2015)

By all accounts this is a deep draft. The Texans can get their pick at #6. They also pick up much needed extra picks in the first round, not to mention having two 1st round picks in the 2015 Draft. I would feel much better going forward with the Texans picking 5 times in the first 3 rounds.

What do y'all think?
That's all? You forgot to throw in Matt Ryan and Julio Jones. I mean come on.
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http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/24/atlanta...014-nfl-draft/

I know there is all sorts of scuttlebutt out there about what the Texans are doing with their #1 pick, but I thought I'd ask the question: If the Texans do trade back, what would you think they should get in return? (Assuming the report is true and the Texans would trade with the Falcons)

I would think:

Falcons get--
#1 pick of the 1st Round (2014)

Texans get--
#6 pick of the 1st Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2nd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 3rd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2014 1st Round (2015)

By all accounts this is a deep draft. The Texans can get their pick at #6. They also pick up much needed extra picks in the first round, not to mention having two 1st round picks in the 2015 Draft. I would feel much better going forward with the Texans picking 5 times in the first 3 rounds.

What do y'all think?
If it were only true, but we are all dreaming if we think Clowney can fetch that volume and quality of picks.
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If it were only true, but we are all dreaming if we think Clowney can fetch that volume and quality of picks.
Julio Jones did.
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That trade scenario has a Bud Light Real American Heroes vibe to it.
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Julio Jones did.
That was jumping 27th overall to 6th for Julio.

This is 6th to 1st. Not many spots here.

I believe all these draft pick trades have a formula or points. They all look the same unless you are dealing with Belichick.
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That was jumping 27th overall to 6th for Julio.

This is 6th to 1st. Not many spots here.

I believe all these draft pick trades have a formula or points. They all look the same unless you are dealing with Belichick.
It actually takes a lot more to move from 6th to 1st then from 27th to 6th if you go by the chart points system.
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Water is wet..


STL is sitting pretty @ #2

Jax isn't making a deal with the Texans being a division rival

Cleveland will have a chance at hitting a home run at #4 where they are already guaranteed one of Clowney , Robinson , Mack or Watkins and probably their choice of at least two of the top 3 QB's.

Oakland has no motive to move up & have more holes to fill than picks.

ATL is the most likely being they have their QB (If they can keep him upright) and adding a guy like Clowney , should he be all that gives them a formidable defensive front for a potential deep playoff run (Again , if they can keep their QB upright). They could also make that same move and take Robinson instead of Clowney.
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I really wouldnt want to do this trade. The only other players i want besides clowney are mack or bridgewater. And i think Mack will be gone by the 6th pick and I think you can nab bridgewater later in the round.
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http://nfl.si.com/2014/04/24/atlanta...014-nfl-draft/

I know there is all sorts of scuttlebutt out there about what the Texans are doing with their #1 pick, but I thought I'd ask the question: If the Texans do trade back, what would you think they should get in return? (Assuming the report is true and the Texans would trade with the Falcons)

I would think:

Falcons get--
#1 pick of the 1st Round (2014)

Texans get--
#6 pick of the 1st Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2nd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 3rd Round (2014)
#6 pick of the 2014 1st Round (2015)

By all accounts this is a deep draft. The Texans can get their pick at #6. They also pick up much needed extra picks in the first round, not to mention having two 1st round picks in the 2015 Draft. I would feel much better going forward with the Texans picking 5 times in the first 3 rounds.

What do y'all think?
By doing the math, that trade is about right.
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I really wouldnt want to do this trade. The only other players i want besides clowney are mack or bridgewater. And i think Mack will be gone by the 6th pick and I think you can nab bridgewater later in the round.
You could always move back again and pick up more draft picks in the process.
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Water is wet..


STL is sitting pretty @ #2

Jax isn't making a deal with the Texans being a division rival

Cleveland will have a chance at hitting a home run at #4 where they are already guaranteed one of Clowney , Robinson , Mack or Watkins and probably their choice of at least two of the top 3 QB's.

Oakland has no motive to move up & have more holes to fill than picks.

ATL is the most likely being they have their QB (If they can keep him upright) and adding a guy like Clowney , should he be all that gives them a formidable defensive front for a potential deep playoff run (Again , if they can keep their QB upright). They could also make that same move and take Robinson instead of Clowney.
I bet that would blow up some draft boards and get some telephones lighting up.

If the original scenario played out, I'd be more than happy take BPA at 1.6
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I bet that would blow up some draft boards and get some telephones lighting up.

If the original scenario played out, I'd be more than happy take BPA at 1.6
Well , Atlanta's biggest issue last season was keeping Ryan upright , what better way to fix it than take the best OT in the draft ??? If Ryan isn't getting hit so often , that team is a real contender.

Or they could take one of Clowney or Mack , whichever they believe makes them the better team.


At 6 The Texans probably have a shot at two of Bortles , Bridgewater or Manziel
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