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Old 09-06-2013   #81
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Lol @ people trying to work the Texans into this whole thing. I may not have the energy to argue against the retarded arguments this year.

The only thing they don't have is a consistent running game, or maybe a running game at all. The amount and quality of weapons Manning has at his disposal is frightening and that defense looks like it's going to really get after QBs this year.

I didn't see much of a running game either and I just see the Texans playing keep-away from Manning like always. Lots of weapons though. Can't argue with that. I'm really looking forward to the game with Denver. It's got the potential to be epic.
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The Broncos have a HOF QB that tossed for 7 TDs, against a better than average defense.

As far as the running game goes, its the 2013 NFL. Its probably less important than the kicking game at this point.
Disagree on the running game and I don't know that I'd call the Ravens defense necessarily better than average in week one of this season. So many changes have taken place with that group that I think they're a mess right now. Once the Ravens lost Jones and Oher their offense went into the crapper. When the offense can't sustain drives the defense gets tired and stuff like 49 points happens.

I'm just not placing a lot of stock in a week one beatdown. At least not until I see the Bronco's rip up a few more teams like that.
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December 22nd we'll have our chance to lose to Peyton.
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Haha! How great is this guy Manning. Up big and 3rd & long under 2 minutes the dude threw the ball for a first down. The trust this guy command is why he is going in the HOF. Wish we had a chance to sign him. Oh wait....we did.
All I'm thinking is why is your franchise QB still in the game against a frustrated defense who might be looking to release some of it against him? Why wouldn't you be giving your backup some some game time?

I hope Kubiak would be smarter than that.
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Manning threw 7 TD's? Is that some sort of single game record?
Joe Kapp pulled off the feat on Sept. 28, 1969, and before him the record was shared by Sid Luckman, Adrian Burk, George Blanda and Y.A. Tittle

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All I'm thinking is why is your franchise QB still in the game against a frustrated defense who might be looking to release some of it against him? Why wouldn't you be giving your backup some some game time?

I hope Kubiak would be smarter than that.
Kubiak keeps Schaub in and has said he thinks its important to do so. But really, not many NFL teams pull their starting QB in situations like that.
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All I'm thinking is why is your franchise QB still in the game against a frustrated defense who might be looking to release some of it against him? Why wouldn't you be giving your backup some some game time?

I hope Kubiak would be smarter than that.
Manning was in a safe mode, not a "conservative" mode. A 3 step drop and throw or lay down and keep the clock running if no recievers are open. It's a virtually impossible play for a "smart" QB to get injure on. That's who John Fox sees on the field, a guy who he can trust to make smart decision.
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Manning was in a safe mode, not a "conservative" mode. A 3 step drop and throw or lay down and keep the clock running if no recievers are open. It's a virtually impossible play for a "smart" QB to get injure on. That's who John Fox sees on the field, a guy who he can trust to make smart decision.
Does it really matter? They didn't get any farther than we did in the play-offs. They were one & done.
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Kubiak keeps Schaub in and has said he thinks its important to do so. But really, not many NFL teams pull their starting QB in situations like that.
You're right but it doesn't make it less stupid. Injury aside, why not get your backup some game time?

Would like to know why Kubiak says its important for the starter to be in there during garbage time. I can't fathom what the logic would be.
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The Broncos have a HOF QB that tossed for 7 TDs, against a better than average defense.

As far as the running game goes, its the 2013 NFL. Its probably less important than the kicking game at this point.
Think folks are living on the past too much and not realizing the current times. That defense is nothing but average. It was that last year. Many seem to forget all the talk about how washed up that defense was last year and no longer able to carry a team. So how in the world is it going to be better than last year with so many changes in the first week of the season?

Statistically that defense was 17th in the league last year which is below average. If you even go by PFF they had them #22 in overall defense. So yeah, that defense is not above average. Could end up that way if they begin to gel and work together but acting as if that was not a rather piss poor defense is a stretch.

Now that's not to take anything away from Peyton because he definitely played an amazing game and killed it for one of my fantasy teams (thanks Peyton!) but at the same time let's not act like that was one amazing defensive unit. This isn't the Ravens D from the past.
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Does it really matter? They didn't get any farther than we did in the play-offs. They were one & done.
They played better in the play offs than we did. They didn't get blown out a second time by a team that just blew them out a few weeks before. They were one and done......with a bye.....that was their firs year gerting used to manning...that was their first year with that style of offense.

All that said, none of that matters for this year. Texans have a chance to prove all the doubters (I'm one) wrong. They have a chance to show us doubters that there's not something functionally wrong with the way the team is built and the mindset of the team.

They have a chance to show that they've learned from last year and have gotten better.

No need for anyone to get bent, defensive, aggressive or irritated on either side. We should all be anxiously awaiting the start of the season. These guys are about to tell us all we need to know.
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Manning is on pace to throw 112 TD passes this year.
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Manning is on pace to throw 112 TD passes this year.
Or he could not throw a single TD for the rest of this month and still end up with a decent number on the year.
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Can't lie, the game last night has me a little shook about Denver.

The very thought of McCain being singled up on Welker .................. Dude couldn't even hold ancient, slow ass Brandon Stokley last year...

We're gonna have to be in Manning's grill all game..
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