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Old 02-21-2014   #1801
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If you're a Teddy Fanatic this is a slap in the face, which it definitely is not. It is only a perceived negative because of a presumed BIAS. Gil only stated the obvious that many people thought Teddy would've BIGGER hands, Gil NEVER said that Teddy's hands were to small, only that they were expected to be BIGGER. Because Gil didn't express a positive or adoration, of course now he has an agenda, which he doesn't. It's only perceived in the minds of Teddy fans.
Not really. Brandt could have just reported the measurements. Instead, he mentions Teddy played with 2 gloves and the fact that they were smaller than he thought, leading you to think it's a negative towards his stock. He then reports that the exact same measurement on a QB mentioning they're above the required size, leading you to think it's a positive towards his stock. He is known Manziel lover, and it's tweets like these that make it hard to take him seriously.
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still waiting for these measurements to be posted by the NFL.

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Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.
Didn't you say earlier that not drafting Bortles would be the biggest mistake the franchise has ever made?
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I don't think 214 will see Teddy again for a few years, at least. He packed it on for the Combine.
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I don't think 214 will see Teddy again for a few years, at least. He packed it on for the Combine.
True, but pretty much every player does. If you can do a bunch of bench reps or run a fast 40, there is a high probability that you will impress at least one team and improve your draft stock. Same thing with height-weight. They don't call it the Underwear Olympics for nothing.

I really dislike how much evaluation goes on at the combine. Measurements are important and also interesting, but tape is what matters. A guy like Bridgewater can show up at 215 and get drafted higher and then he's playing at 205 next season. What was the point in getting giddy about his weight in the first place?
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The thing with scouting is, I really really hate when people cannot be objective. I don't care if you have favorites, we all do. But be objective.
Neither of you are showing objectivity. Bridgewater is being discussed and analyzed as a potential number one pick. Garopollo is being discussed relative to a second or third round pick. A 9 1/4" hand is adequate for a NFL QB, but not ideal. So Gil Brandt's two statements are spot on when taking into account where the two prospects are expected to go in the draft.
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The whole reason they measure "Hand Size" is to know how it fits to the circumference of the football. Basic physics.
Ahh, but do his hands continue to exist if you turn the light off?

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I don't think 214 will see Teddy again for a few years, at least. He packed it on for the Combine.
I donīt really understand that reasoning. If 214 helps him with his play and he was able to get to that weight in the offseason, why would he slim down again? And if 214 only looks good on paper but hurts his play (speed, agility, athleticism) wouldn`t it hurt him to put that much on for the combine?

214 isn`t an extreme number for his height and frame - actually it is a pretty good number. And it isn`t uncommon for a college player to gain some weight with the jump to the pros. So why do you think he won`t see it again for a few years?
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Neither of you are showing objectivity. Bridgewater is being discussed and analyzed as a potential number one pick. Garopollo is being discussed relative to a second or third round pick. A 9 1/4" hand is adequate for a NFL QB, but not ideal. So Gil Brandt's two statements are spot on when taking into account where the two prospects are expected to go in the draft.
I disagree, but to each his own.
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If you're a Teddy Fanatic this is a slap in the face, which it definitely is not. It is only a perceived negative because of a presumed BIAS. Gil only stated the obvious that many people thought Teddy would've BIGGER hands, Gil NEVER said that Teddy's hands were to small, only that they were expected to be BIGGER. Because Gil didn't express a positive or adoration, of course now he has an agenda, which he doesn't. It's only perceived in the minds of Teddy fans.
Why would you expect bigger hands on TB who was rumored to have small hands than on the slightly larger Garappolo?

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Neither of you are showing objectivity. Bridgewater is being discussed and analyzed as a potential number one pick. Garopollo is being discussed relative to a second or third round pick. A 9 1/4" hand is adequate for a NFL QB, but not ideal. So Gil Brandt's two statements are spot on when taking into account where the two prospects are expected to go in the draft.
Facially looks plausible, but where is the tweet on Bortles and his not ideal one eighth inch larger hands? He is being considered at the number one pick.
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Not exactly true. It's really hard to put on weight during a season. You're always doing conditioning to stay in shape. You put on weight during the offseason.

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If we're talking about bulking up yeah. But if we're talking about getting back to normal after a surgery, not so much.

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I disagree, but to each his own.
Why? If you are selecting a player at 1-1, aren't you going to hold him to a higher standard of analysis? Luck was rated so highly, in part, precisely because his measurables were as outstanding as were his skills.

Now maybe you were addressing your comment to other posters and not to Gil Brandt's two comments; in which case I misinterpreted your intent and in which case my comment wouldn't apply to you. I was addressing those who saw something inconsistent with Brandt's comments.
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If we're talking about bulking up yeah. But if we're talking about getting back to normal after a surgery, not so much.

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What if he wasn't normal before surgery? He weighed about 205-210 before surgery and looked pretty bulked. Pretty difficult to put that weight back on during season with all the conditioning work.
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I donīt really understand that reasoning. If 214 helps him with his play and he was able to get to that weight in the offseason, why would he slim down again? And if 214 only looks good on paper but hurts his play (speed, agility, athleticism) wouldn`t it hurt him to put that much on for the combine?
It's about what's real & what isn't. If he took a bunch of salt pills & drank a bunch of water, it's not real & he'll naturally get back to what's real. No slimming involved.

I'm sure some of that is involved & he's probably closer to 210 right now. Anymore than that & he'll look bloated. He looked every bit of 210 in that video the other day. When I get home I'm sure there will be pictures & video of the weigh in so we'll see how natural he looks.

If he weighed in at 205, & me expecting a little salt pill & water shenanigans, I would have knocked his grade down quite a bit. As it stands, I've corrected towards the positive.

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Not really. Brandt could have just reported the measurements. Instead, he mentions Teddy played with 2 gloves and the fact that they were smaller than he thought, leading you to think it's a negative towards his stock. He then reports that the exact same measurement on a QB mentioning they're above the required size, leading you to think it's a positive towards his stock. He is known Manziel lover, and it's tweets like these that make it hard to take him seriously.
The two quotes were completely separate. Only connected and presented together by a disgruntled Teddy fan. leading Teddy fans to think it's a negative towards his stock. The reason Gil reported Garopolo has above required hand size is because there was a question if Garopolo was 6'0 and would have small hands. Again this is just more bad interpretation from Teddy fans. The quotes were completely separate, it's only Teddy fans trying to connect the dots.

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Didn't you say earlier that not drafting Bortles would be the biggest mistake the franchise has ever made?
Yes and I still stand by that statement. Bortles ability to remain cool, calm and collected in the last two minutes and deliver the WIN in almost every circumstance is Montana and Bradyesque. Nothing has changed about my OPINION.

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I don't think 214 will see Teddy again for a few years, at least. He packed it on for the Combine.
Agree, Teddy has been devouring 10,000 calories a day for the last two months in order to make weight at the combine. He has likely added 20 lbs. This says to me his playing weight at Louisville was close to 195.

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Why would you expect bigger hands on TB who was rumored to have small hands than on the slightly larger Garappolo?
I did not say I expected TB to have bigger hands. You're confusing me with Gil Brandt.
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If you're a Teddy Fanatic this is a slap in the face, which it definitely is not. It is only a perceived negative because of a presumed BIAS. Gil only stated the obvious that many people thought Teddy would've BIGGER hands, Gil NEVER said that Teddy's hands were to small, only that they were expected to be BIGGER. Because Gil didn't express a positive or adoration, of course now he has an agenda, which he doesn't. It's only perceived in the minds of Teddy fans.
100% agree!!!!!the Bridgewater fans are being way to defensive. Every little comment said about him his is met with criticism no matter whether it's fact or opinion based on observation that was never meant as a put down.
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What if he wasn't normal before surgery? He weighed about 205-210 before surgery and looked pretty bulked. Pretty difficult to put that weight back on during season with all the conditioning work.
I'm not a doctor. But in my mind, if we were talking about some surgery that kept him from putting weight on his feet, where he suffered from severe atrophy I'd probably be thinking along those lines. But he was a relatively healthy young man who couldn't eat the way a growing kid should. Once they unwired his jaw his body should have been playing catchup.

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I did not say I expected TB to have bigger hands. You're confusing me with Gil Brandt.
OK captain never met a spurious distinction you didn't like and never heard of the generic you - why would Brandt expect TB to have bigger hands when the concern was his hands being too small? For instance was he on record saying the concerns about TB were ridiculous and he could tell TBs hands were plenty big by looking at them?
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