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Old 02-21-2014   #1781
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How were Teddy's finger nails? Were they long enough?. Studies show that it can affect a spiral and Super Bowl berth.
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He almost never throws a spiral because of 9 1/4 hand size?
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I didn't say anything about not big enough and Texian it has nothing to do with "in relation to football." Bortles as a much bigger guy has marginally larger hands. That is not a comment that either is too small. It is more an observation on the commentary to date. Their hand size is insignificantly different to the eye and yet the larger Bortles was never questioned about it, i.e. this has all been created controversy over the glove or just people repeating things about TB.
It has everything to do with "The Football". The whole reason they measure "Hand Size" is to know how it fits to the circumference of the football. Basic physics. A BIGGER throwing hand is advantageous in bad weather and in general ball security.
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I didn't say anything about not big enough and Texian it has nothing to do with "in relation to football." Bortles as a much bigger guy has marginally larger hands. That is not a comment that either is too small. It is more an observation on the commentary to date. Their hand size is insignificantly different to the eye and yet the larger Bortles was never questioned about it, i.e. this has all been created controversy over the glove or just people repeating things about TB.
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I remember it well also. I was 19 when they moved it to 21 in Texas. They had grandfathered the prior move from 18 to 19 but didn't grandfather the move from 19 to 21.

I remember the legal drinking age "walking up" from 18 pretty much in step with my own age. Once I turned 18 I could drink and I don't remember ever dropping back at any time as it went up.

that's just my memory. It could be off or maybe I just had a run of never being carded in there.
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You mess with Bortles you mess with Texian , you've be n warned . Kinda like Renfield and Dracula , Tom and Jerry , Abbott and Costello , Mustard and Ketchup , and peas and carrots .
Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.
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Wasn't there an ESPN sport science episode that went over how much grip improved by wearing gloves?
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Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.
What if Teddy turns out to be Rogers ? You gonna say you were wrong ?

I don't know anyone on this board who is set in stone about their QB choice except about three posters . Their QB choices are Bortles , Manziel , and McCarron . Now name that poster .
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The throwing of a spiral has more to do with the grip on a football than the size of the hand.



It has everything to do with "The Football". The whole reason they measure "Hand Size" is to know how it fits to the circumference of the football. Basic physics. A BIGGER throwing hand is advantageous in bad weather and in general ball security.
Throwing a spiral also is snapping the wrist .
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The thing with scouting is, I really really hate when people cannot be objective. I don't care if you have favorites, we all do. But be objective.
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The throwing of a spiral has more to do with the grip on a football than the size of the hand.

Do you even read some of the stuff you type? The grip on a football most often times is a direct result of the size of the hand genius. Most guys with small hands can't grip the ball well b/c it's too large around the area where the threads are. Their hands just don't have a large enough surface area to rest the ball on. This limits the amount of the ball the index finger can wrap around the smaller part of the ball..and since the index is the main contributor in creating spin on the ball and it's the last finger off the ball...........

You can improve this with wearing gloves, but its minimal..
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Teddy Bridgewater 6'2 1/8", 214 lbs., 9 1/4" hand.
If the Texans select Bridgewater I'm giddy about that weight. The only reason I questioned it was because he was listed at 205 two years ago & 195 last year. He looked every bit of 195. However his proponents argued he lost weight due to off season surgery.

He had plenty of time to put weight on during the season. Not doing so would lead me to believe he's naturally thin & a hard gainer.

214 tells me he did add weight during y get season & probably played between 205~210. I'm disappointed he isn't a true 6'3" but what I've seen makes that negligible.

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Not necessarily, if Bortles shows he can't throw the ball 40 yds HE'S OUT. Unlike the Teddy Fanatics I'm not married to Bortles. In fact over the course of the season I have changed opinions a couple of times. Unlike Teddy Fanatics who have been all-in on Teddy since the 2013 Sugar Bowl. Until I see another QB who can WIN games in the last 2 minutes as well or better than Bortles has proved he can do, Bortles is the man.

Part of the reason many of the armchair pretend scouts in the media are 100% committed to Teddy is because they were neck deep in their affirmation and coronation of Teddy before the 2013 season even started. One of the big flaws in the human character is the inability to admit one is wrong or admitting a mistake as is the case with many armchair pretend scouts in the media. When Teddy turns out to be Sam Bradford the Teddy Fanatics will say they knew it all along.
Something very wrong with this part of your post..
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If you're a Teddy Fanatic this is a slap in the face, which it definitely is not. It is only a perceived negative because of a presumed BIAS. Gil only stated the obvious that many people thought Teddy would've BIGGER hands, Gil NEVER said that Teddy's hands were to small, only that they were expected to be BIGGER. Because Gil didn't express a positive or adoration, of course now he has an agenda, which he doesn't. It's only perceived in the minds of Teddy fans.
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If the Texans select Bridgewater I'm giddy about that weight. The only reason I questioned it was because he was listed at 205 two years ago & 195 last year. He looked every bit of 195. However his proponents argued he lost weight due to off season surgery.
That's because he did. He lost probably about 10 lbs because of it.

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He had plenty of time to put weight on during the season. Not doing so would lead me to believe he's naturally thin & a hard gainer.
Not exactly true. It's really hard to put on weight during a season. You're always doing conditioning to stay in shape. You put on weight during the offseason.

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214 tells me he did add weight during y get season & probably played between 205~210. I'm disappointed he isn't a true 6'3" but what I've seen makes that negligible.
IMO, he got up to about 205 for this season and then recently added 10 lbs between the end of the season and the combine because his agent told him to. 6'2 or 6'3 doesn't really matter to me. They're basically the same. Sure he's not 6'5, but he's also not 5'11.
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