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Old 02-10-2014   #1621
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I would've been wrong. Because it looks like Newton has grown up and will live up to his immense talent level. A talent level no QB in this draft is even close too.
I think Cam physically is a freak talent that will really be seen in sport.

Not convinced that his non physical talent is better than what is available in this draft.

Physical talent isn't everything for a QB.

I'd take Bridgewater's football brain in college over anything Newton displayed in college.
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Probably not, Newton while being the best talent in the draft had severe character questions. (Theft) I don't think I would've wanted him being the face of my franchise. I would've been wrong. Because it looks like Newton has grown up and will live up to his immense talent level. A talent level no QB in this draft is even close too.
I'm still not sold on Cam Newton. He did improve .... but the biggest improvement on that team was its defense which was a huge benefit to Newton.
He makes some big plays .... but also some critical mistakes. Can they win a Lombardi with him ? Maybe , but I don't see him being the catalyst but not in spite of either. He'll have to contribute and limit the mistakes.
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I think Cam physically is a freak talent that will really be seen in sport.

Not convinced that his non physical talent is better than what is available in this draft.

Physical talent isn't everything for a QB.

I'd take Bridgewater's football brain in college over anything Newton displayed in college.
This is true. I truly believe if Cam was coming out this draft he would be slotted about where he was during his draft. Right outside the top 10 on average, and TB would still be slotted where he is currently. Inside of the top 10 on average.
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To win big in the NFL (Super Bowl) you need a CLUTCH QB and a great defense.

In this draft you're just as likely to find a clutch QB late in the 1st or early 2nd rd as at 1-1. None of these top 3 QB's have greatness genes to me. Bridgewater has the best chance of the top 3. IMHO But I don't think he's worth the risk of 1-1.

But I bet you regardless of which QB will be picked (One will be picked) history will be repeating itself.

Because history is all over the board. From Ryan Leaf to that guy from Michigan taken in the 6th. Sometimes ya just gotta nut up and pull the trigger. I'm in the 'Bridgewater is going to make a great Pro camp'. Nothing says I can't be wrong though and the folks that say he's fool's gold are spot on.

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The main ingredient missing is the QB drafted by the Rams at 1-1. (Bradford) I don't want to see the Texans go down this reaching for a QB route and essentially become the Rams. Sad part is that I like Bradford more than any QB in this draft.
& still, no one has them upgrading the most important position on the field in this draft.
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Sure the SeaDucks won a Super Bowl with him ... but it was defense & running the rock that they hung their hat on.
& everyone says its a QB driven league. That Kubiak... ahead of his time.


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since we don't have one thread for all qbs......
Here are some MAJOR issues I have seen (consistently) with the top 3 qbs.

Blake Bortles (and his is the worst by FAR) struggles BIG TIME with accuracy when throwing left. I have watched numerous games now of him and Im telling you, he struggles bad throwing left. When wrs catch it, its low and they have to dive/slide to get it. Big time concern IMO

Teddy and Johnny both struggle with this, they tend to drift backwards when the pocket collapses. Not always, but enough to notice and see it could be a problem.

Teddy doesn't use his athleticism enough. He is very athletic but will stand in the pocket too long (similar to Rodgers in this aspect) and cause unnecessary bad plays.

Johnny on the other hand tends to drift too quickly. Its exciting, but exposes him to big hits and limits the down field plays especially in the NFL.
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& still, no one has them upgrading the most important position on the field in this draft.
I think lots of people have them upgrading their QB position this offseason. Lots of analysts are suggesting they cut Bradford, save 10 million in cap money and draft a QB. The question is: are they ready to give up on Bradford, who has played pretty well before his injury in 2013. Giving up on a #1 pick that has shown flashes is the hard part. Bradfords biggest downfall are his injuries. But I wouldn`t be shocked, if the Rams cut him and take one of the QBs.
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I think lots of people have them upgrading their QB position this offseason. Lots of analysts are suggesting they cut Bradford, save 10 million in cap money and draft a QB. The question is: are they ready to give up on Bradford, who has played pretty well before his injury in 2013. Giving up on a #1 pick that has shown flashes is the hard part. Bradfords biggest downfall are his injuries. But I wouldn`t be shocked, if the Rams cut him and take one of the QBs.
Lots of people in their minds would do as you suggested. I haven't seen one single hint from anyone in that organization that has even suggested they have given up on Bradford. He was offensive rookie of the year 2010. You think they are going to give up on the number one overall pick after only 3 years? No way. IMO it 70% WR 30% OT. He needs better weapons and better protection. He's a lot better than people give him credit for.

In his second year he had to go through what David Carr went through. He was sacked a lot and got banged up. Then a coaching change. They arent giving up on him this soon considering the promiss he has shown and what he's been through.
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& still, no one has them upgrading the most important position on the field in this draft.
Wonder why?

Could it be Snead/Fisher don't think a QB in this draft is as good as Bradford? But the Texans should spend 1-1 on a lesser QB than Bradford because they need one?

It's easy to see with this kind of leadership why the Texans are picking 1-1 again and probably will be again in another 5-7 yrs and we will be having this discussion all over again.

Thanks BoB/Rick, this is what you get when people at the top of the org put fans entertainment value above winning football games.
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Wonder why?

Could it be Snead/Fisher don't think a QB in this draft is as good as Bradford? But the Texans should spend 1-1 on a lesser QB than Bradford because they need one?

It's easy to see with this kind of leadership why the Texans are picking 1-1 again and probably will be again in another 5-7 yrs and we will be having this discussion all over again.

Thanks BoB/Rick, this is what you get when people at the top of the org put fans entertainment value above winning football games.
or they owe Bradford a small fortune .

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/st.-louis-rams/sam-bradford/
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Wonder why?

Could it be Snead/Fisher don't think a QB in this draft is as good as Bradford? But the Texans should spend 1-1 on a lesser QB than Bradford because they need one?

It's easy to see with this kind of leadership why the Texans are picking 1-1 again and probably will be again in another 5-7 yrs and we will be having this discussion all over again.

Thanks BoB/Rick, this is what you get when people at the top of the org put fans entertainment value above winning football games.
I don't think they ever put entertainment over winning football games. If they take a qb 1-1, they will most certainly believe he will be a franchise guy to build around. Sam Bradford has had injury issues, plus coach turnover, but he was quite a prospect coming out, eventhough he didn't play in a pro style offense coming out.
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Lots of people in their minds would do as you suggested. I haven't seen one single hint from anyone in that organization that has even suggested they have given up on Bradford. He was offensive rookie of the year 2010. You think they are going to give up on the number one overall pick after only 3 years? No way. IMO it 70% WR 30% OT. He needs better weapons and better protection. He's a lot better than people give him credit for.

In his second year he had to go through what David Carr went through. He was sacked a lot and got banged up. Then a coaching change. They arent giving up on him this soon considering the promiss he has shown and what he's been through.
I've actually heard quite a bit of rumblings from St. Louis talking about getting QBs. More than one of their "beat writers" has made it clear that's the direction they should go.

You will NEVER hear an organization ever badmouth or say 'they've given up' on a QB. The second you do, that QB is cut within 24 hours (for this reference see the prank call done to the Buffalo Bills GM and the immediate cut of Ryan Fitzpatrick once the story went live).
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I've actually heard quite a bit of rumblings from St. Louis talking about getting QBs. More than one of their "beat writers" has made it clear that's the direction they should go.

You will NEVER hear an organization ever badmouth or say 'they've given up' on a QB. The second you do, that QB is cut within 24 hours (for this reference see the prank call done to the Buffalo Bills GM and the immediate cut of Ryan Fitzpatrick once the story went live).
John McClain is a beat writer for the texans. Nuff said. With the money they owe him and the fact that he's only had three years and part of that he was injured means no way they ditch him now.
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I've actually heard quite a bit of rumblings from St. Louis talking about getting QBs. More than one of their "beat writers" has made it clear that's the direction they should go...
Or they could be angling for a trade down to select any of Robinson/Matthews/Lewan.
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Wonder why?

Could it be Snead/Fisher don't think a QB in this draft is as good as Bradford? But the Texans should spend 1-1 on a lesser QB than Bradford because they need one?

It's easy to see with this kind of leadership why the Texans are picking 1-1 again and probably will be again in another 5-7 yrs and we will be having this discussion all over again.

Thanks BoB/Rick, this is what you get when people at the top of the org put fans entertainment value above winning football games.
Or it's because they can't afford to cut him so they are talking him up because that's what every team does in that situation.
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It's easy to see with this kind of leadership why the Texans are picking 1-1 again and probably will be again in another 5-7 yrs and we will be having this discussion all over again.

Thanks BoB/Rick, this is what you get when people at the top of the org put fans entertainment value above winning football games.
Whoa... whoa.... they haven't picked a QB yet. They might not.
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Wonder why?

Could it be Snead/Fisher don't think a QB in this draft is as good as Bradford? But the Texans should spend 1-1 on a lesser QB than Bradford because they need one?

It's easy to see with this kind of leadership why the Texans are picking 1-1 again and probably will be again in another 5-7 yrs and we will be having this discussion all over again.

Thanks BoB/Rick, this is what you get when people at the top of the org put fans entertainment value above winning football games.
If they don't find a solution at QB this offseason , they will likely be picking very high again in next years draft ... We wont have to wait 5-7 years.
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Or it's because they can't afford to cut him so they are talking him up because that's what every team does in that situation.
Just throwing this in the mix. Spotrac says in 2012 the guarantees for the 2014 and 2015 base salaries were thrown out. They have him as a $10.5 mil cap savings if cut this offseason and $13 mil after next season.
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John McClain is a beat writer for the texans. Nuff said. With the money they owe him and the fact that he's only had three years and part of that he was injured means no way they ditch him now.
They would ditch him now because of his salary alone. He was the last of mega rookie salaries.
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