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Old 01-25-2014   #1281
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Well you better get used to it. It's the way things are now. The rules are already there to protect the QB outside the pocket. I want a guy capable of making plays outside when things breakdown but smart enough to use the rules in his favor.
The only rule protecting the QB outside the pocket is the sliding rule. That's been in place for years. They're calling the hitting the player out of bounds thing rather liberally for QBs, but other than that, nothing special.

Injuries to Michael Vick & RG3 says we're pretty much in the same spot we've always been. Kaepernick, Wilson, & Luck are doing good right now, but I believe they are on borrowed time. IMO, they need to get better in the pocket quickly.... I doubt they can do it a third year in a row without suffering some sidelining injury.


Luck maybe not so much, because he doesn't run as often as the others, but he does run more than say a Tony Romo.
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What's Luck's 40?


Irrelevant? Yes.
4.6 same as Cam Newton, both are relevant and WHY both run WELL.
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Luck maybe not so much, because he doesn't run as often as the others, but he does run more than say an Aaron Rodgers, or even Tony Romo.
Rodgers and Luck run with just about the exact same frequency. Romo hardly ever takes off passed the LOS, he does move around behind it a lot though. If you go off how much all three ran in college, I think it safe to say Teddy will average about the same amount of rushing attempts as Rodgers and Luck do in the NFL. He will probably have a similar 40 time of both of these guys as well. Luck is significantly bigger than Teddy and Rodgers though, which makes his 4.6 time pretty impressive.
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4.6 same as Cam Newton, both are relevant and WHY both run WELL.
They're both 6'4" 240 lbs or more.
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They're both 6'4" 240 lbs or more.
Rodgers is 6'2 225 right now. I suppose because of that height and weight he's automatically not elite.
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The only rule protecting the QB outside the pocket is the sliding rule. That's been in place for years. They're calling the hitting the player out of bounds thing rather liberally for QBs, but other than .

Once you are outside the tackle you can throw the ball away. It just has to be beyond the LOS. It doesn't matter if it's in the stands.
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40 times are used to measure quick twitch and explosion moreso than just speed. In regards to bridgewater, he'll probably run 4.6 ish like rodgers,luck,cam, and those types. Its not like he will be running thatg option stuff,its moreso he can get away from a de closing from a standstill. 3 cone,short shuttle measures quickness which is just as good as stgraight line speed. Boldin ran a 4.7, but he had the quickest shuttle and 3 cone. That's why why he got open a lot.
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They're both 6'4" 240 lbs or more.
Manziel runs a 4.45 which is important for his escape ability. If he's slower than anticipated, he might not be as effective in the pros. He doesn't have it all, but neither do the big backs.
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Manziel runs a 4.45 which is important for his escape ability. If he's slower than anticipated, he might not be as effective in the pros. He doesn't have it all, but neither do the big backs.
4.45? Drinking the koolaid today?
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4.45? Drinking the koolaid today?
Nope. I'm going with the hard stuff. Grape juice.

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Nope. I'm going with the hard stuff. Grape juice.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sports/col...he-heisman.ece
IOTW you got nothing and embellished on an untested hope by a player:

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I’m not sure. I have not run a 40 probably in a year and a half or so. But I think I could run around a… I couldn’t run anything like what [Ryan] Swope ran [at the NFL Combine], but I would hope around a 4.5. Somewhere in there would be nice.
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For those who were telling me Teddy Bridgewater is super polished earlier today, check out his game against UH http://youtu.be/IQKN-F6fk6I
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Everyone has off games, but Teddy showed poor accuracy beyond 20 yards, fell away from his throw a la Bortles, and threw into coverage.

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I bring that up not to crap on Bridgewater (I actually like him a lot), but rather to dispel twitter group think. He is not a sure thing.
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I bring that up not to crap on Bridgewater (I actually like him a lot), but rather to dispel twitter group think. He is not a sure thing.
I think the vast majority of us here on TT would agree with the bold.
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I think the vast majority of us here on TT would agree with the bold.
I think that could be said about all three QB's.
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I think that could be said about all three QB's.
And perhaps everyone in this draft class except for Mosley
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IOTW you got nothing and embellished on an untested hope by a player:
I used what I remembered, I was .05 off, but followed it with:
If he's slower than anticipated, he might not be as effective in the pros. He doesn't have it all, but neither do the big backs.
So what's your problem? Is this not true? Or do you just not want to hear anything remotely positive about Manziel?

Remember, I want to trade down. I'm not a fan of any of the QBs.
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Rodgers is 6'2 225 right now. I suppose because of that height and weight he's automatically not elite.
I think you're overestimating the importance of weight. While it is important when projecting a players future success & longevity it is not the sole determination.

At 6'2" 225 lbs I would feel fairly confident that Rodgers would be able to take the beating an NFL QB will take. His height is of some concern, he will have difficulty finding passing lanes, or just being able to see routes develop closer to the LOS... however, in hindsight we know he is capable of performing well, very well in the pocket.
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I think the vast majority of us here on TT would agree with the bold.
Debatable. This thread alone a vast majority think TB is the Man, a Franchise QB, hands down, no questions asked. The consensus Group Think.
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Debatable. This thread alone a vast majority think TB is the Man, a Franchise QB, hands down, no questions asked. The consensus Group Think.
Absolutely no flaws worth considering.
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Debatable. This thread alone a vast majority think TB is the Man, a Franchise QB, hands down, no questions asked. The consensus Group Think.
Nope ... most know there is no perfect pick and the trick is to find a guy with the least fatal flaw . That guy doesn't have to be the 1st overall pick but if he is , he better be good .
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