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Old 01-21-2014   #1161
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That was his big board, not a mock.
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Brett from BRB talking about Teddy. This guy knows his stuff, obviously.

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Just bear in mind he had Matt Barkley at #7 and Geno Smith at #12 overall pre-combine last year. Link

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7. Matt Barkley, USC - Barkley might not be physically gifted like Cam Newton or Robert Griffin III, but his football IQ, pocket presence, and intangibles are through the roof. As a pure pocket passer, he could be just as good as recent first overall picks Andrew Luck and Matthew Stafford.
Says same about "Rain Man" Bridgewater.
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Says same about "Rain Man" Bridgewater.
Says Bridgwater is 80% completion rate against blitz. Yeh ok. Where is this guy getting his stats? Smmmmhhh
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Says Bridgwater is 80% completion rate against blitz. Yeh ok. Where is this guy getting his stats? Smmmmhhh
http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...back-conundrum

Maybe he likes to round up? 76.92% against the Blitz is still pretty fkn awesome. It's better than any of the other QBs.

I don't give a crap if you poke fun at the guy for Barkley, but he makes a good case about Teddy being the smartest QB and O'Brien's system being advanced.

In fact, A LOT of people on here are going to look really foolish when some of these QBs don't pan out. I could be wrong too about Teddy. We'll make sure they know they're stupid!
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http://www.rotoworld.com/articles/cf...back-conundrum

Maybe he likes to round up? 76.92% against the Blitz is still pretty fkn awesome. It's better than any of the other QBs.

I don't give a crap if you poke fun at the guy for Barkley, but he makes a good case about Teddy being the smartest QB and O'Brien's system being advanced.

In fact, A LOT of people on here are going to look really foolish when some of these QBs don't pan out. I could be wrong too about Teddy. We'll make sure they know they're stupid!
I couldn't even finish listening to that slobfest. I like teddy but c'mon man. That guys no more a professional scout than anyone here. He's in love with what he has read and now he is exaggerating the truth to get people to think he knows something more than the general public.

And the way he was dogging on Manziel should prove to anyone with any footbal knowledge that he's just another amateur wanna be scout.

And by the way I have heard actual coaches call Manziel a savant. They say he learns plays faster than any player they have ever seen and his memory is unbelievable.
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And by the way I have heard actual coaches call Manziel a savant. They say he learns plays faster than any player they have ever seen and his memory is unbelievable.
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I have no problem with this guy ranking Barkley ahead of Geno Smith. But to put him on the same level as Luck is nuts. I'll take this guy's opinion with a grain of salt.
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And by the way I have heard actual coaches call Manziel a savant. They say he learns plays faster than any player they have ever seen and his memory is unbelievable.
Googled it myself, only reference I could find was from Fran Tarkenton, which is kind of praising someone in his own image right?
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I have no problem with this guy ranking Barkley ahead of Geno Smith. But to put him on the same level as Luck is nuts. I'll take this guy's opinion with a grain of salt.
To be fair he was only talking about his pocket passing ability and said he "could" be as good as Luck and Stafford in that regard. Ranking him 7th clearly shows, that he doesn`t value him nearly as high as either of those. But of course he was still majorly overvalueing him (if he doesn`t have a breakout season in the future).

I only listened to a bit of the podcast - it sounds like a guy that knows football, but also like one that read a lot of Bridgewater scouting reports on the internet. Ive read the savant thing before, the "80% completion percentage" is an exaggerated rotoworld stat.

But still it seems like Bridgewaters biggest strength are his football intelect, his drive, his pocket awareness and his decision making. Those are pretty good traits to have. Accuracy seems to be another major strength, that might be a little skewed because of the lack of competition. But his great percentages against the blitz are another major plus. Some people see faults in his technique, especially on long balls. This together with his small frame are the major knocks on him. Maybe add the lower completion percentage in the redzone as an area of concern (it is still good, but noticeably worse than his usual completion percentage).

Luckily, those are things that the combine will clear out. Then we will know exactly how tall and heavy he is - and his throwing motion will be dissected in great detail by about every scout in the country. If there is a problem, the question is, if it is fixable.

I think one thing is for sure: he won`t be a Jamarcus Russel or Vince Young or someone like Leinart. Even when he was the best player on the court, he was always trying to get even better and he understands the game. I think worst case scenario is Alex Smith - someone that doesn`t like to take chances and is more of a game manager. Best case scenario? Manning lite. He won`t ever have the statue of Manning, and probably fall short in some other places - but he could be the coach on the field masterfully taking apart a defense and making every player better.
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To be fair he was only talking about his pocket passing ability and said he "could" be as good as Luck and Stafford in that regard. Ranking him 7th clearly shows, that he doesn`t value him nearly as high as either of those. But of course he was still majorly overvalueing him (if he doesn`t have a breakout season in the future).

I only listened to a bit of the podcast - it sounds like a guy that knows football, but also like one that read a lot of Bridgewater scouting reports on the internet. Ive read the savant thing before, the "80% completion percentage" is an exaggerated rotoworld stat.

But still it seems like Bridgewaters biggest strength are his football intelect, his drive, his pocket awareness and his decision making. Those are pretty good traits to have. Accuracy seems to be another major strength, that might be a little skewed because of the lack of competition. But his great percentages against the blitz are another major plus. Some people see faults in his technique, especially on long balls. This together with his small frame are the major knocks on him. Maybe add the lower completion percentage in the redzone as an area of concern (it is still good, but noticeably worse than his usual completion percentage).

Luckily, those are things that the combine will clear out. Then we will know exactly how tall and heavy he is - and his throwing motion will be dissected in great detail by about every scout in the country. If there is a problem, the question is, if it is fixable.

I think one thing is for sure: he won`t be a Jamarcus Russel or Vince Young or someone like Leinart. Even when he was the best player on the court, he was always trying to get even better and he understands the game. I think worst case scenario is Alex Smith - someone that doesn`t like to take chances and is more of a game manager. Best case scenario? Manning lite. He won`t ever have the statue of Manning, and probably fall short in some other places - but he could be the coach on the field masterfully taking apart a defense and making every player better.
But does he have the forehead? Do they measure that at the combine?
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Didn't read it. Heard it. It was either on 610 or 790. I'm sure there is a podcast. I have no idea how to find it.
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I kinda like how some folks want to see certain metrics, then when they get slapped in the face with cold, hard facts they quickly deflect and change the subject or try their hardest to discredit said stat. Gives me a chuckle.
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I think comments about Manziel's quick analytical ability, memory and extreme work ethic came from Kliff Kingsbury. You might want to search with his name, if so inclined.
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I kinda like how some folks want to see certain metrics, then when they get slapped in the face with cold, hard facts they quickly deflect and change the subject or try their hardest to discredit said stat. Gives me a chuckle.
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I think comments about Manziel's quick analytical ability, memory and extreme work ethic came from Kliff Kingsbury. You might want to search with his name, if so inclined.
I believe you are right. I only caught part of the interview so not a 100%.
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Just bear in mind he had Matt Barkley at #7 and Geno Smith at #12 overall pre-combine last year. Link
I definitely hear you bro, but I don't want you to discredit him. Matt Barkley was a smoke screen that almost no scouts saw through until the actual combine.

For me personally, Mike Mayock is the best in the game. I am not posting this to discredit him, but to just prove that Barkley was a hell of a smoke screen that had everyone fooled.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap10...2013-nfl-draft

Doing a "big board NFL draft prospects" search in google in the custom range from Feb 1-20 of 2013 will show you that just about everyone was fooled.

Wait until after the combine and see how they rank things then. This guy did mock Hopkins to us last year, so I think he knows what he's doing a little bit.
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I believe you are right. I only caught part of the interview so not a 100%.
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I think comments about Manziel's quick analytical ability, memory and extreme work ethic came from Kliff Kingsbury. You might want to search with his name, if so inclined.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/92...-nfl-prospects

I think that is the article you might be talking about.
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I think that is the article you might be talking about.
lol, there you go. Skip Bayless is always a good guy to have in your corner. He's a good judge of talent.

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James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSNTajh Boyd told me excluding himself, Teddy Bridgewater is the best QB in this draft bc he can "do it all". #Texans #SeniorBowl
So Boyd's top 2 QBs are himself and Bridgewater. We should trade down to #4 and take Boyd!
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