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Old 01-09-2014   #861
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Fair enough. But Aaron Rodgers was not considered the top QB prospect in his draft. He wasn't "deemed" worthy of the 1-1, or even a top 10 pick.
Oh, no, no, no.

At the time, the 1-1 pick was going to be either Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. No one else was in serious consideration for that 1-1 pick and no one knew which way the Niners were going to go.

And they probably went the wrong way.

BUT.

Aaron Rodgers was totally worthy of being the 1-1 pick in that draft. If he had been picked, people wouldn't have been shouting that the Niners had reached for him or anything. Most people would have thought that was at least as good as picking Smith. The fact that he dropped to near the end of the first round doesn't mean he wasn't "worthy" of being 1-1.
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Show me an NFL starting QB under 200 lbs.
Most of the smaller QBs are in the 205-210 pound range.

If Bridgewater comes in at 205-210, will people be OK with that?
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Oh, no, no, no.

At the time, the 1-1 pick was going to be either Alex Smith or Aaron Rodgers. No one else was in serious consideration for that 1-1 pick and no one knew which way the Niners were going to go.

And they probably went the wrong way.

BUT.

Aaron Rodgers was totally worthy of being the 1-1 pick in that draft. If he had been picked, people wouldn't have been shouting that the Niners had reached for him or anything. Most people would have thought that was at least as good as picking Smith. The fact that he dropped to near the end of the first round doesn't mean he wasn't "worthy" of being 1-1.
I remember everybody thinking Rogers was going to be the pick .
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Most of the smaller QBs are in the 205-210 pound range.

If Bridgewater comes in at 205-210, will people be OK with that?
Teddy went to Louisville at 170 lbs and gained 50 lbs his first year .
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Teddy went to Louisville at 170 lbs and gained 50 lbs his first year .
There's no way In hell Teddy weighs 220.
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Most of the smaller QBs are in the 205-210 pound range.

If Bridgewater comes in at 205-210, will people be OK with that?
It's not really the actual weight that worries me as much as it is, does he have a frail frame? Not saying he does. I don't know. The same goes for Manziel. None of will know until they are weighed and measured.
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I don't understand this infatuation with weight.
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There's no way In hell Teddy weighs 220.
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Lol are we really having a debate about his weight here?. Man it's going to be a long offseason.
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So if he weights in at the combine at say 195 lbs that doesn't throw up a red flag for you?
Why would it be a red flag if he didn't miss any games? If he didn't have presence and recognition and was hurt a lot, I would. Same goes for any position. Big ben has missed a lot of games because he holds onto the ball. Matt schaub is 6'5 240lbs, he was hurt often in his texans career. As a qb in the nfl, you have to learn to take hits no matter how big you are. Just like with passing lanes. Chris simms led the nfl in batted down passes when he played and he's 6'5 yet brees,wilson and other smaller qbs it hasn't been a problem.
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Most of the smaller QBs are in the 205-210 pound range.

If Bridgewater comes in at 205-210, will people be OK with that?
It really shouldn't be hard for him to gain ten pounds. I don't think his size is really an issue. He is kind of small and even Manziel weighs more than him, but he should be alright.
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the difference of 10 pounds or so isn't going to make a different if he gets laid out.
His shown he can take a hit and that his elusive enough in the pocket. for me whether his 205, 210, 220 doesn't make a difference. he handles blitz's well in pre snap and post snap reads and that is much more important. that will be the telling skill to determine his longevity in regards to injury in the league.
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If Bridgewater comes in at 205-210, will people be OK with that?
No.

They say he lost weight in the off season because he had his jaw wired. From the time he unwired his jaw to the time of the combine if he can't get to 210, I'll be very upset if we pick him with the #1 overall.

& no, I would not be happy if he showed up @ 245 with a pot belly.
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Not really. You can't predict injuries, and since Bridgewater has not missed a lot of time, I am not concerned.

You did not answer my question though- why is it such a big deal?
Because they love some Jamarcus Russell. Lots of Jamarcus Russell. Over 300 pounds of JR...
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I await the HOF inductions of Jamarcus Russell and Jared Lorenzen then.

That has nothing to do with being an NFL QB.
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No.

They say he lost weight in the off season because he had his jaw wired. From the time he unwired his jaw to the time of the combine if he can't get to 210, I'll be very upset if we pick him with the #1 overall.

& no, I would not be happy if he showed up @ 245 with a pot belly.
If he was really at 220 at the end of his Freshman year, I don't think there's going to be a problem.
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I await the HOF inductions of Jamarcus Russell and Jared Lorenzen then.

That has nothing to do with being an NFL QB.
Sure it does. It doesn't have EVERYTHING to do with being an NFL QB, so you can just keep waiting for Russel and Lorenzen. Simply put, Mr. Physics says that if ANY football player (even QBs) take a hit, one of the equations in play is F=MA. Well, acceleration sure isn't slowing down, so you might want to have a little mass on your frame. Getting out of the way and not taking those hits is even more important, obviously. But guys with a little more meat on their bones take hits a little better over the long term.

It's really common sense. Not saying that should preclude TB from anything, but I was just answering your inquiry as to why anyone gives a damn about his weight.
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We should start placing some bets on Teddy's weigh in at the combine.

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You guys are sounding a bit silly. Yes, his weight is an issue when speculating his durability. At the same time most need to understand he is young and can easily gain that weight with proper training with, at this point, he should be able to obtain now. You guys are acting like it would take a kid in his early twenties some leaping over buildings to gain 10-20 pounds in training. That is not difficult to do.

Not to mention if he didn't weigh 210 in the combine you still are talking months until the season and then under the personal strength/condition training of an NFL coaching staff. So relax already. If he had poor work ethic I could understand but all we hear is the complete opposite. Hell, I've gained those pounds without the personal training he gets and my brother does who is shaping up for his own proday now.
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Lol are we really having a debate about his weight here?. Man it's going to be a long offseason.

And it's one of the things that's easier to correct.
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