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Old 01-03-2014   #681
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I'm hoping the combine helps sort them out better than watching film and the games thus far.

Clowney probably has the best raw potential, but he needs to take less plays off and his technique will need some work against NFL lineman.

Bridgewater has overall good technique (there are some question regarding release point and the deep ball), but hasn't played enough great competition to see how he'd fare on Sundays. Is used to a Pro-style Offense. Needs to put on some muscle.

Manziel is a wild card. His technique is all over the place, but improved markedly after time w/ QB guru. Great leadership and threat when play breaks down. Still has issues with blitz pickup. Great deep ball. Short and undersized leads to durability concerns, especially with his tendency to run.

Jake Matthews has faltered as of late. Short arms and tends to wait for pass rushers to come to him. More suited as a RT. Will start from day 1.

Blake Bortles still needs some polish to his game. He's NFL sized now. Missing the booming downfield arm of some of his peers. Not quite immobile, but not the running threat of either Manziel or Bridgewater.

Several of them look "good", and great at times. I'd prefer more consistency on the great side at 1:1.
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Not sure if it was mentioned but Lance Z said he perfered Manizel at this point over the other QB's. Not sure if thats just talk or pot stirring or what. But he said it.
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Not sure if it was mentioned but Lance Z said he perfered Manizel at this point over the other QB's. Not sure if thats just talk or pot stirring or what. But he said it.
Lance is usually pretty good when he's talking discussing the Offensive Line and OL players.
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O'Brian's offense is complicated and he's said his QB's must have the intelligence and instincts to make instant, correct decisions.
And that is what I think is going to be exactly what swings Coach 0 onto the TB train. TD Ted is exactly the QB that he describes in the seminar vid that was posted a couple of days ago. My line of thinking says if someone that has exactly the qualifications you're looking for falls into your lap ya take him.
Except that's what all coaches say about their QBs. I've yet to come across one saying, "We're just looking for the most physically gifted guy we can find. Mentally week is preferable so we can train him to think like a monkey. This NFL offense really isn't that difficult. You'll see how easy it is to stymie once we lose our physically gifted athlete."

As "simple" as everyone believes Kubiak's offense to be, we kicked butt when Schaub didn't have his head up his butt. Denver (2012), Baltimore (2012), Seattle (2013)... the best defenses in the league struggled with it. Schaub doesn't have audibles, but what he did have was just as effective & takes as a QB equally as smart.
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Yea, after the RG3 fleecing/fiasco I doubt many teams will be willing to mortgage the future irrespective of talent available.

So the knock on Teddy has gone from small hands to a less than perfect release angle? I'm still feeling great. Folks keep using the "I wouldn't take Teddy just because" argumentnot lending anything tangible to their stance.

Name me another pro ready QB with the cerebral ability of Bridgewater. I'll wait.
Back to BPA vs BQBA. Trades happen when either differences in need or (in this case) differences in evaluation occur. We see these differences on the board and they also happen in FOs of the various teams. Would fixing the sieve in the OL make Shaub or Keenum or even Yates a more viable QB? Would not fixing that doom any of the QBs to failure including Teddy or Johnny?

These are the things which will be evaluated after BOB has put his staff together and they get a feel for what we have now. Who is likely to come off IR ready to play and who isn't. Who do we retain and who do we pick up in FA? only then will we have the information necessary to determine how we will approach the draft. Draftnicks are position conscious rather than BPA conscious. It's all they have to work with.

It will be a couple of weeks before we even know who will be in the draft. only them will we really have an inkling of what we're distributing.
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Teddy Bridgewater is my favorite for the selection at #1 overall right now.

Most importantly I feel like he has high football IQ, understands the game and what offenses and defenses are doing... and has a drive to always get better and improve. Those are 2 qualities I feel a Franchise QB like Brady and Manning MUST have.

Other pluses include history in a pro style offense, being forced by his OC to read defenses pre snap, make audibles and adjustments, be the onfield coordinator, read the entire field, call the appropriate play and then execute it. He is a QB in the head and heart, he has excellent pocket presence and is athletic enough to extend plays with his legs while always keeping eyes downfield to throw first and run second. He has virtually 3 years of experience as a starter and has steadily improved every single season. He's been very successful both statistically and with W/L's. He appears to also be a "high character" individual off the field staying out of trouble and focusing on school and football. Graduated HS early to enroll at Louisville to get an edge on winning the QB job (an unpopular decision from decommitting from Miami).

Cons would be his "size" and "competition". Height is fine but weight is concern listed from 196-205 range? Honestly to me he does not look scrawny thin though...I feel over the next several years his body will continue to develop as he ages from 21-24 ("ish")...just natural development as well as being a professional full time football player and with NFL (Texans) strength and conditioning coaches. Competition is not a major concern for me in all honesty. While it is not "SEC Defenses"... he's not facing Division III teams all season. Beat a hell of a Florida team last season in the Sugar Bowl. He has done everything right, beat the teams he's supposed to and rebounded from games they've lost (like UCF).

He's the only QB I feel comfortable saying I think he has Franchise QB potential. Bortles is a guy I need to learn more about. Manziel will be fun to watch but he's not my 10-15 year franchise QB. McCarron is a career backup/bottom half of league starter - might have a fine career but nothing special to me.

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Well stated Ole Miss.

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Ole Miss just shut the thread down! I echo everything he says.
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Has Bortles ever worked through injury or faced adversity in his life? Another rich kid who has been given everything on a silver platter?

Hard to measure heart and desire to rise from the ashes.
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Has Bortles ever worked through injury or faced adversity in his life? Another rich kid who has been given everything on a silver platter?

Hard to measure heart and desire to rise from the ashes.
Wow, you are really out to get Bortles and any QB not named Bridgewater. I was playing catchup in this part of the forum this morning and you are really coming down hard on Bortles for any perceived negative imaginable.
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Wow, you are really out to get Bortles and any QB not named Bridgewater. I was playing catchup in this part of the forum this morning and you are really coming down hard on Bortles for any perceived negative imaginable.
In the QB threads OBJECTIVE is a dirty word .
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Wow, you are really out to get Bortles and any QB not named Bridgewater. I was playing catchup in this part of the forum this morning and you are really coming down hard on Bortles for any perceived negative imaginable.
lol he's giving texian a taste of his own troll medicine.
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lol he's giving texian a taste of his own troll medicine.
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Has Bortles ever worked through injury or faced adversity in his life? Another rich kid who has been given everything on a silver platter?

Hard to measure heart and desire to rise from the ashes.
What kind of stupid questioning is this? A guy isn't ready for the pros because you think he comes from a good household?By far one if the dumbest comments I've read in here.
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Has Bortles ever worked through injury or faced adversity in his life? Another rich kid who has been given everything on a silver platter?

Hard to measure heart and desire to rise from the ashes.
Good grief man. You need to figure some stuff out posing questions like that.

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lol he's giving texian a taste of his own troll medicine.
This doesn't make any sense.
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Good grief man. You need to figure some stuff out posing questions like that.



This doesn't make any sense.
but this does>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Stole this quote from Double Barrel (Wade Phillips wants to stay) thread but this is exactly how Teddy Bridegwater impresses me - “You must be shapeless, formless, like water. When you pour water in a cup, it becomes the cup. When you pour water in a bottle, it becomes the bottle. When you pour water in a teapot, it becomes the teapot. Water can drip and it can crash. Become like water my friend.”
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Elway? Same guy who got blasted in the superbowl like 4 times right?

This is retard reasoning. If mcnabb wasn't a franchise qb,then kelly,marino,and a slew of guys are not franchise qb. To me a franchise qb is a guy who is a 10 yr guy,multiple probowls and take your team deep in the playoffs. Why you're critical of mcnabb,tell me his rbs and wrs. How many nfc title games have drew brees been too? Drew brees lost to a 7-9 seattle team and a chad pennington let jets team. Peyton is 2 games under .500 in the playoffs.

When you say higher standard,I like hear your higher standard.
Higher standard includes not throwing up on your teammates during a possible SB winning drive. BTW, didn't McNabb have T.O./Westbrook? Not exactly chopped liver? McNabbs own teammates have even called him a choker.
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Higher standard includes not throwing up on your teammates during a possible SB winning drive. BTW, didn't McNabb have T.O./Westbrook? Not exactly chopped liver? McNabbs own teammates have even called him a choker.
WTF are you talking about? TO called him that, and TO has blasted every QB he ever played with. Mcnabb carried those Philly teams for years with trash at WR. Absolute trash. He had guys like Pinkston, Freddie Mitchell, and Jason Avant. He had Kevin Curtis healthy for one season as well. Wow!! Then he had barely more than half a season with TO before he got hurt and Mcnabb took that team to the SB "without him." TO did nothing but tear the locker room apart and tried to make it seem like Mcnabb was some wimp all because he didn't beat a team who had just won their 3rd SB, despite the fact that he came close to winning the game. It was one of the worst criticisms ever by a receiver, and hardly anyone even bought it considering the main source of the criticisms. Mcnabb was considered an elite QB for several years in the NFL.
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Wow look at all the priveleged kids in here. Sorry to strike a nerve.

But I most certainly do believe and root for those good guys in life who have been given a bad hand, not those silver spoon sucking 1%ers who get everything they want. And no I would never troll Texian, he is the resident expert around here <wink> fish food.
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