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Old 05-01-2014   #2621
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Not that it matters, but I'd swear I can see a difference today in Teddy's facial structure/jawline or something compared to the Combine... ?
Your jawline changes when you start sucking.
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at this point no one knows where he is going and i wouldn't be surprised if he does fall out of the first.

upset? not at all, i don't fall for the pot stirring around here. i want mack or clowney at 1.1.
Me too. I don't think he's a "reach" like most others. All we've been saying about needing outside pass rushing and there he is. Clowney may be as well as he's certainly presented well through all the hype but I see Mack bringing all day every day when I see Clowney clowning on a bunch of plays. I know there are several schools of thought on this.

Guess we'll all just have to hide-N-watch for a couple of years to see how they both really shake out. Damn shame we can't snag both of them.
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The difference here is Mayock actually attends the Pro Days while Kiper is in a studio doing 20 spots a day on TV or in a production meeting. Mayock stands on the practice field facility only yards away from the QB actually watching Bortles/Bridgewater/Manzie up close and personal. Mayock also knows and talks with everyone standing on that field with him. It doesn't stretch the imagination to think that Mayock has a good repoire with his brethren.

Now, imagine if you will, if Mayock had said, Teddy Bridgewater would be the next Andrew Luck.
How the hell are we to "imagine" that scenario when TB was working out BEHIND HIS BACK and he glanced occasionally at the video feed?

Mayock, along with his opinions are saying: "Where are we going? Why are we in this handbasket"?

He's losing major respect (IMO) that he spent decades building. I don't understand it myself.
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How the hell are we to "imagine" that scenario when TB was working out BEHIND HIS BACK and he glanced occasionally at the video feed?

Mayock, along with his opinions are saying: "Where are we going? Why are we in this handbasket"?

He's losing major respect (IMO) that he spent decades building. I don't understand it myself.
Most Teddybots don't. If Mayock had said Teddy was the next Andrew Luck you and the rest of the Teddybots would think that Mayock is the GREATEST talent evaluator EEVVVEEEERRRRR!
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Most Teddybots don't. If Mayock had said Teddy was the next Andrew Luck you and the rest of the Teddybots would think that Mayock is the GREATEST talent evaluator EEVVVEEEERRRRR!
The only people that have tried to make any comparison to Andrew Luck are the Bortles fan boys.


"He looks like Luck on the field!"
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The only people that have tried to make any comparison to Andrew Luck are the Bortles fan boys.
Look up...... that's Texian's point up there.
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Teddy Bridgewater is the next Aaron Rodgers.


Why do you think that statement is true/false.
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Look up...... that's Texian's point up there.
so the "teddy bots" have said teddy is a once in a generation QB prospect like Luck before? haven't seen that, so idk why any talking head on tv would make that comment, let alone fans agreeing with it.
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Teddy Bridgewater is the next Aaron Rodgers.


Why do you think that statement is true/false.
in the sense that aaron was considered the top qb prospect that draft year until smith aced his wonderlic and ran faster in shorts, then aaron's mechanics were deemed horrible and lacked a big arm?
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in the sense that aaron was considered the top qb prospect that draft year until smith aced his wonderlic and ran faster in shorts, then aaron's mechanics were deemed horrible and lacked a big arm?
Pretty much. Listen to phil sims or watch ted thompson drop a 2nd and 7th rd pick the year rodger was to take over for favre. Sims said the 1st couple of years at camp,there were question marks about rodgers. The next yr he said a ball was thrown with so much velocity,he thought it was favre. He turned around and it was rodgers.

We can post info and have our personal favs. A guy like Texian is just trying to build up bortles for some strange reason. I could go in the bortles thread and post a lot of negative info,I choose not to cause it doesn't change anyones opinion about the player. We will see 3 yrs from now who is the best qb out of this group.
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Bridgewater was considered a sure top 5 pick for a couple of reasons:

1. His football IQ - elite
2. His vision - elite
3. His pocket presence - very good
4. His motivation to get better - very good
5. His accuracy of short to medium throws - seemingly elite if you look at his completion percentage and TD/INT ratio

All that time there were question marks around his frame and his arm strenght which led to inaccurate long balls and not enough zip on medium throws.

Now after his proball most of the reasons why he was considered a top 5 pick are unchanged - with the exception of reason number 5. Several balls came out wobbly at his pro day, and the worries about his arm strength and not putting up enough zip on the ball were even worse than some thought before.

So why is that? Was it the infamous gloves? Maybe, but if so only a very small part. Was it because it wasn`t a real game situation? Was it because his breakfast egg wasn`t cooked right? Or is it something that can`t be correctet? We don`t really know that.

But what we do know is: coaching, strength programs and small corrections can be done and Bridgewater is a guy that is eager to learn. And he is a guy that knows his own shortcomings and rarely attempts throws, that he can`t complete. So the real question between considering him a franchise guy or a bust/backup is: do you believe his arm strength/long ball accuracy problems can be fixed, or are not as severe as his proday seemed to show? Because there surely are no questions about the other areas that were the reasons he was considered a top 5 pick.

And remember, there are questions like this around every QB in this years draft.
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Bridgewater was considered a sure top 5 pick for a couple of reasons:
None of this makes sense if you believe he was truly considered a top 5 pick by NFL teams. We all assume he was because the media told us he was, but as soon as the NFL season was over, the media started changing their story.

I never believed he was a top 5 pick. A top five pick is as close to a can't miss prospect as you can get... never mind that several turn out to be busts, especially at the QB position.

So the question is & has always been is there a QB in this draft that a GM wants to bet his job on. I don't think there is.

That doesn't mean Teddy isn't the best QB in this draft or that he won't have a good long NFL career. But you can find guys like that in the second round or later (Matt Schaub, Matt Hasselbeck, Brett Favre, Drew Brees, Jake Delhomme).

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What I meant by that: he was a top 5 pick in 90% of the mock drafts and he was in the top 5 of 75% of big boards before the combine.
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What I meant by that: he was a top 5 pick in 90% of the mock drafts and he was in the top 5 of 75% of big boards before the combine.
Mock drafts sure. 75% of the media guys big boards... sure. But those don't matter. They aren't real. That's just a bunch of people who wish they ran teams.

My point is that the coaches didn't start looking at players till January. I don't think any of them thought Bridgewater was a franchise QB. Good, but not good enough to pass on elite talent.

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Most Teddybots don't. If Mayock had said Teddy was the next Andrew Luck you and the rest of the Teddybots would think that Mayock is the GREATEST talent evaluator EEVVVEEEERRRRR!
My views on Mayock had / have nothing to do with the name associated. I'm no Teddybot and I think Mayock has (understandably) turned into a "just another TV talking head".

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Hate to burst your bubble there, but I'm no Bortles fanboi and I think he looks almost exactly like Luck when he tucks it and runs. Throwing is a different beast altogether.
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They aren't real.
That is, unfortunately, our only source of information.

Which of course leads to those erroneous notions of "reaches", "risers", and "fallers".
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Six more days. Wonder what we will all disagree with once the draft is over.
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Six more days. Wonder what we will all disagree with once the draft is over.
How good or bad the draft picks are going to work out; how good or bad Rick Smith did and what he should have done, instead.
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How good or bad the draft picks are going to work out; how good or bad Rick Smith did and what he should have done, instead.
That should get us to training camp, anyway.
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