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If I were TB I'd be contacting Nike or Under Harmour to make some H20 QB gloves.
Pssh..... they'd put them on Manziel & make a killing.
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He's obviously not savvy enough to make that kind of PR/endorsement move which is why he will never be the face of a franchise.
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I remember when a guy named Mel Kiper used to watch his own film, grade out his own players, and evaluate them how HE saw them. He was one of the best in the business. People respected him, I respected him. Then things changed...

He stopped making his own opinions, he quit watching his own tape, he began just listening to NFL teams and their scouts (who would NEVER lie to someone that is going to report their opinions and draft direction to the media). He just basically averaged out their "honest opinions" and made a big board off that.

Ever wonder why his "best available" players on his big board are now there 2-3 rounds later than they "should be"? I guess I'm the only one that notices these things, but whatever.

The point I'm trying to make is this...

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(Mayock speaking here) I talked to a lot of teams, and I'm hearing a heck of a lot more second-round grades than first-round grades.
Everything I just said in the beginning of my description of Kiper, replace Kiper with Mayock then look at what Mayock says in this quote. Striking similarity to me...

Since ESPN draft is such a joke to me now and they all just follow guys in the back room picking up phones obsessed with breaking the news before the Commish or other announcing party I will watch NFL Network, and I won't be shocked when Mayock's big board begins to remind me a lot of what has happened to Kipers.
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Everything I just said in the beginning of my description of Kiper, replace Kiper with Mayock then look at what Mayock says in this quote. Striking similarity to me...

Since ESPN draft is such a joke to me now and they all just follow guys in the back room picking up phones obsessed with breaking the news before the Commish or other announcing party I will watch NFL Network, and I won't be shocked when Mayock's big board begins to remind me a lot of what has happened to Kipers.
The difference here is Mayock actually attends the Pro Days while Kiper is in a studio doing 20 spots a day on TV or in a production meeting. Mayock stands on the practice field facility only yards away from the QB actually watching Bortles/Bridgewater/Manzie up close and personal. Mayock also knows and talks with everyone standing on that field with him. It doesn't stretch the imagination to think that Mayock has a good repoire with his brethren.

Now, imagine if you will, if Mayock had said, Teddy Bridgewater would be the next Andrew Luck.
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Though Bridgewater comes off a bit reserved in interviews, his calm demeanor shouldn't overshadow his ability to lead a program. He was one of the most prominent high school quarterbacks in the country, thanks to a three-year stint as a starter at Miami's famed Northwestern High School. He was selected to the Army All-American Bowl as a senior and was one of the most heavily recruited players in the state of Florida before eventually committing to Charlie Strong and Louisville late in the process.

Bridgewater then burst onto the scene as a freshman and helped lead Louisville's resurgence onto the national scene that was highlighted by a BCS bowl win over SEC power Florida during his sophomore season. Though he fell off the radar some in his final year, he was still one of the most accurate quarterbacks in the country and considered a near lock to be a first-round pick. Recent NFL.com mock drafts do have Bridgewater falling...
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Man I just cannot see this kid getting drafted in the first round...I mean, come on he has skinny knees. No QB has EVER amounted to anything, in the NFL, with skinny knees.

I'm sorry but if I am the GM and have the #1 overall pick, no freaking way to I pick a QB that may have all the tangibles, can make all the throws, has a high football IQ, BUT has skinny knees...

deal breaker...
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Man I just cannot see this kid getting drafted in the first round...I mean, come on he has skinny knees. No QB has EVER amounted to anything, in the NFL, with skinny knees.

I'm sorry but if I am the GM and have the #1 overall pick, no freaking way to I pick a QB that may have all the tangibles, can make all the throws, has a high football IQ, BUT has skinny knees...

deal breaker...
And we've got Fitzpatrick. I can see a GM overlooking the knees thing if we really needed a QB, but since we just signed Fitzpatrick & Bridgewater's got skinny knees... c'mon.
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And we've got Fitzpatrick. I can see a GM overlooking the knees thing if we really needed a QB, but since we just signed Fitzpatrick & Bridgewater's got skinny knees... c'mon.
exactly! Thank you!

*note* That had to be the dumbest evaluation reason not to draft a player I have ever heard in all my 38 years of existence...Skinny knees?

Man I have heard enough to know I have heard too much...
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I heard Mayock and Kiper evaluating his nose hairs, not properly trimmed it could affect the trajectory and velocity of his passes.
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Not trying to pile on Teddy, really don't care either way. I talked w/2 QB coaches today, both gave him 3rd round grades
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Not trying to pile on Teddy, really don't care either way. I talked w/2 QB coaches today, both gave him 3rd round grades
Now he goes in the 3rd round? tha hell?
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Teddy Bridgewater and the danger of focusing on pro days, not game tape
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A compelling example on the other side of the curve is this report from SI’s Tim Layden a number of years ago, as he watched one quarterback prospect fling the ball at his pro day:

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[Quarterback X] was confused. Some quarterbacks took Zorn’s advice and threw three-quarter-speed spirals to wideouts long after the receivers came out of their breaks. Balls like those would get picked off in a game, but they were safe passes in this arena. [Quarterback X] stuck with his game plan and threw on rhythm. Some wideouts made sharp breaks, others didn’t. Of [Quarterback X's] 20 balls, 11 were solid throws and nine were poor. He one-hopped a simple out-cut and overthrew another. His long throws – the post-corner and the streak – were wobbly, setting off alarms throughout the league.
Quarterback X’s name? Drew Brees. Safe to say, things worked out fairly decently for him...
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Not that it matters, but I'd swear I can see a difference today in Teddy's facial structure/jawline or something compared to the Combine... ?
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Not that it matters, but I'd swear I can see a difference today in Teddy's facial structure/jawline or something compared to the Combine... ?
Your jawline changes when you start sucking.
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at this point no one knows where he is going and i wouldn't be surprised if he does fall out of the first.

upset? not at all, i don't fall for the pot stirring around here. i want mack or clowney at 1.1.
Me too. I don't think he's a "reach" like most others. All we've been saying about needing outside pass rushing and there he is. Clowney may be as well as he's certainly presented well through all the hype but I see Mack bringing all day every day when I see Clowney clowning on a bunch of plays. I know there are several schools of thought on this.

Guess we'll all just have to hide-N-watch for a couple of years to see how they both really shake out. Damn shame we can't snag both of them.
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The difference here is Mayock actually attends the Pro Days while Kiper is in a studio doing 20 spots a day on TV or in a production meeting. Mayock stands on the practice field facility only yards away from the QB actually watching Bortles/Bridgewater/Manzie up close and personal. Mayock also knows and talks with everyone standing on that field with him. It doesn't stretch the imagination to think that Mayock has a good repoire with his brethren.

Now, imagine if you will, if Mayock had said, Teddy Bridgewater would be the next Andrew Luck.
How the hell are we to "imagine" that scenario when TB was working out BEHIND HIS BACK and he glanced occasionally at the video feed?

Mayock, along with his opinions are saying: "Where are we going? Why are we in this handbasket"?

He's losing major respect (IMO) that he spent decades building. I don't understand it myself.
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