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Old 04-29-2014   #2581
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My mind was made up when our biggest need being QB wasn't addressed in free agency. Last season he finished with four interceptions against 31 touchdowns. A year ago, that kind of season would have only reinforced the widely held belief that Bridgewater was a top-two pick in the 2014 draft.
First...
We don't really know who is moving up or down on real draft boards. Remember, this is lying season. For all we know, teams have Bridgewater as the top prospect in this class. We won't know until the draft & then, it's only a guess. If Bridgewater is taken in the top 5, it's a good guess that the teams paid no attention to what we're seeing in the media If Tom Savage goes undrafted, then it's a pretty good guess that he did not ride up draft boards the way the media is reporting.
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I don't agree with some of the conclusions you've come to. If Savage is moving up the draft boards, it is not because he transferred from school to school like Foles did. I would think it was the ability he showed to learn Pittsburgh's offense, start from day 1, then lead the team to a bowl game. That's some pretty impressive sht right there. maybe not as impressive as Bridgewater's "knowledge" of the game... to you.
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If the draft goes the way the media is suggesting. Bridgewater late in the first, Savage early in the second, then I think it would be more beneficial to understand how that happened, instead of just blowing it off as the NFL got it wrong. Maybe we got it wrong & I'd like to learn & understand how I got it wrong to better prepare me for next year.
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We don't really know who is moving up or down on real draft boards. Remember, this is lying season. For all we know, teams have Bridgewater as the top prospect in this class. We won't know until the draft & then, it's only a guess. If Bridgewater is taken in the top 5, it's a good guess that the teams paid no attention to what we're seeing in the media If Tom Savage goes undrafted, then it's a pretty good guess that he did not ride up draft boards the way the media is reporting.
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I don't agree with some of the conclusions you've come to. If Savage is moving up the draft boards, it is not because he transferred from school to school like Foles did. I would think it was the ability he showed to learn Pittsburgh's offense, start from day 1, then lead the team to a bowl game. That's some pretty impressive sht right there. maybe not as impressive as Bridgewater's "knowledge" of the game... to you.
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If the draft goes the way the media is suggesting. Bridgewater late in the first, Savage early in the second, then I think it would be more beneficial to understand how that happened, instead of just blowing it off as the NFL got it wrong. Maybe we got it wrong & I'd like to learn & understand how I got it wrong to better prepare me for next year.
I didn't think I would be getting into a debate with a post that I started a sentence with "My mind is made up....." about a prospect I have had my eye on a long time ago. I started this thread in September last year and nothing has changed my mind.

That is not to say I haven't heard the knocks on him but they started coming out the flood gates once the season was over not while the season was going on.

I am not surprised you don't agree with MY conclusions since we have never been on the same page about TB. I don't expect those with opposing views on TB to all of sudden change their minds on this kid days away from the draft. As for.......

"I would think it was the ability he showed to learn Pittsburgh's offense, start from day 1, then lead the team to a bowl game. That's some pretty impressive sht right there. maybe not as impressive as Bridgewater's "knowledge" of the game... to you."

Again we can go back and forth for another 10 pages and we will not get anywhere, lets just leave it as YOU are impressed with Savage's ability to learn an offense from day one and as for ME its TB's "knowledge" of the game he took over as a freshman.

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If the draft goes the way the media is suggesting. Bridgewater late in the first, Savage early in the second, then I think it would be more beneficial to understand how that happened, instead of just blowing it off as the NFL got it wrong. Maybe we got it wrong & I'd like to learn & understand how I got it wrong to better prepare me for next year.


I agree with you here, how Bridgewater fell all the way late to the first and Savage is now in the early second where McCarron was considered the top prospect of that round is beyond me and if that does play out, I will be scratching my head and asking a lot of questions.
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Is it just me or do his hands look small?




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I get it, Teddy Bear. What's next? Clowney dressed like a clown?
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Bio: There are times in life when one simply has to turn off all the noise and focus on what you can control. And in the 2014 pre-draft process, no player has had to learn and re-learn this more than Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. When he finished his 2013 season with 303 completions in 473 attempts (a 71 completion percentage) for 3,970 yards, 31 touchdowns and just four interceptions, he was thought to be a universal top-five prospect. Since then, and especially after Bridgewater’s sub-par pro day, his stock has been dropping precipitously in the cottage industries of mock draft and overall draft speculation, to the point where some well-respected draftniks have said that they wouldn’t even take him in the first round.

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Conclusion: The more I go back and rewatch Bridgewater tape, the less willing I am to drop into the seemingly common perception that he hads some abnormally low ceiling, and that he’ll top off pretty quickly in the NFL. Most of his deep ball issues can be fixed by the kinds of coaching and strength training that all kinds of quarterbacks (Drew Brees and Tom Brady come immediately to mind) have benefited from in obvious ways. And yes, he played at about 190 pounds through the final bit of his 2013 season, but showing up weighing 214 pounds at the combine was a definite statement. And yes, he really blew it at his pro day … but let’s be real here: Any NFL executive who will throw multiple scouted games out the window based on a shirt-and-shorts session, whether positive or negative, is probably on his way out the door.

Is Bridgewater the perfect collegiate quarterback? No. There are clearly things he needs to work on, which is true of just about every quarterback prospect. But when it comes to combining innate skills and developmental potential in an NFL view, it’s hard for me to put anyone above Bridgewater. He already has a lot on the ball, and with time and patience, he could be the kind of quarterback that defines a franchise.
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I am still convinced that TB has the lowest bust potential. I think at worst he becomes a game manager like Alex Smith or Chad Pennington. A guy that won`t surprise you much in games or win a game by himself, but a guy that can help you when you have all the other pieces in place. But I am pretty sure he will be in the league for some time.

I am also convinced that at least Manziel and possibly Bortles have a higher ceiling. The only thing Bridgewater is elite in are the mental aspects. Those two guys have physical traits that Bridgewater just can`t match and never will be able to match.

Thirdly I am deeply convinced, that Carr has the biggest bust factor, and that is not because of his last name. He struggled mightily when getting pressured and most of his passes were in the 0-5 yard range. He had a great proday - all of that sounds a lot like Gabbert. I think those weaknesses will be very hard to correct at the pro level.

At 1.1. I´d be alright with Manziel - big boom and big bust potential, but I´d get that pick. If we trade back a couple of spaces I´d be ok with Bortles. I don`t see him becoming a star, but he has all the tools. I´d be thrilled if we could trade up to the end of the first or pick Bridgewater at the beginning of the second round. I´d also be alright with Garapolo here. Later than that I´d be ok with a number of guys like Savage, McCarron, Mettenberger...
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So Bridgewater tanked his pro day to make money. That's would actually be a pretty smart move. You end up later in the draft so you are going to a better team who most likely already had a starter that you can be groomed by and you still make a ton of money. Very slick TB!
For some reason, the dude doesn't look that smart to me ...

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For some reason, the dude doesn't look that smart to me ...

Agreed. That eye shadow with that dress... pssh... moron!!
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I get it, Teddy Bear. What's next? Clowney dressed like a clown?
Thanks for connecting the dots.

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"First and foremost, you want to say the tape is most important," Mayock said on "Path to the Draft." "We talk about that all the time, but at the quarterback position, you have to see the guy throw live. We all know that that pro day was below average for a top-level quarterback. I talked to a lot of teams, and I'm hearing a heck of a lot more second-round grades than first-round grades.

"What I'm hearing is two things. Number one, when we saw him throw live we didn't see arm strength and didn't see accuracy. Number two, when you draft a quarterback in the first round you expect him to be the face of your franchise, you expect him to embrace the moment. I think people had some concerns about whether or not this young man is ready to step up and be the face of a franchise."

"I want to bang the table for the kid's tape," Mayock said. "However, you have to see him throw live."

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@NU_Gap: Last year I calc'd my QB aggregate score and 2012 Teddy B. was the highest ranked QB, same thing this year - no questions for me on Teddy

@nfldraftscout: Y'all know I love Johnny Manziel...but why are NFL people questioning Bridgewater as the face of a team and not Johnny?

@nfldraftscout: Last thing I'm gonna say about Bridgewater tonight. Do you want Russell Wilson? Draft Bridgewater.
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I wonder who the Texans will draft. Then I see a pic of tranny Ted and wonder what bobby mac would do. And things are a lil less mysterious.
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@NU_Gap: Last year I calc'd my QB aggregate score and 2012 Teddy B. was the highest ranked QB, same thing this year - no questions for me on Teddy

@nfldraftscout: Y'all know I love Johnny Manziel...but why are NFL people questioning Bridgewater as the face of a team and not Johnny?

@nfldraftscout: Last thing I'm gonna say about Bridgewater tonight. Do you want Russell Wilson? Draft Bridgewater.

@nfldraftscout: The Bridgewater slander pisses me off because guys aren't saying, "Hate his film, no thanks." They're creating issues where there are none


@nfldraftscout : "He's too skinny"—Gains 14 lbs "Small hands"—Same as Garoppolo "Didn't play anyone"—Same schedule at Bortles "Well, then, bad character"


moot point though, since most of us didn't see him throw live at his pro-day.
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moot point though, since most of us didn't see him throw live at his pro-day.
Do you think he's going to fall out of the first round?

Or are you upset because they aren't talking about TB as a top 5 pick?
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I lost a Franklin on Texans season finale betting they would win, just to ensure they didn't & secure the #1 overall pick, how _ucked up is that? Wanted Bridgewater, hands down because Schaub had to go (he did) & Teddy strengths where Matts weakness, but that was in heat of the moment. Now its about adding the most talented football player, not just with first pick but every pick. Still like Teddy, maybe more as a person, regardless they're better more dynamic football players coming out. Texans must be smart, either trade down & select him or take bpa.

#1 Robinson - franchise OT, next Orlando Pace
#2 Watkins - #1 WR, super-sized Steve Smith
#3 Clowney - inconsistent but superlative athletic pass rusher, Taylor-esque
#4 Matthews - Bloodlines
#5 Mack - all world LB
#6 Donald - versatile playmaking DL
#7 Barr -still raw but has everything you want in OLB position
#8 Manziel - top QB can handle pressure/media
#9 Lewan - copycat of last year #1 overall pick Fisher
#10 Evans - match-up nightmare, red zone target freak of nature
#11 Bridgewater - would be best served to sit, watch & learn while improving his core/arm strength.
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That's the elephant in the room. I think that's the same knock that Geno Smith had last year. I'll say this: It's easier to be the face of the franchise and the team leader if you produce on the field. And I think Bridgewater has a better chance of producing than any of the other QBs. Being a rah-rah guy is pretty meaningless if you can't put points on the scoreboard.
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Do you think he's going to fall out of the first round?

Or are you upset because they aren't talking about TB as a top 5 pick?
at this point no one knows where he is going and i wouldn't be surprised if he does fall out of the first.

upset? not at all, i don't fall for the pot stirring around here. i want mack or clowney at 1.1.
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