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Old 07-05-2005   #1
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Good story on Ed Reed. We always read about the guys wanting to back out of their deals. Reed was the 85'th best paid Safety last year, but clearly the best at his position.
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To understand how big a bargain Reed is, consider that 84 safeties made more than his $513,000 total compensation in 2004 -- with 48 of them earning more than $1 million. What's even more astounding is that Reed hasn't pressured the Ravens to get a new deal.
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Ed Reed did get a $3.625 million signing bonus when he signed that 5 year deal in '02. That would give Reed a cap value of $1.275 million for '05. I don't know if the writer took that into account when he ranked Reed #85 on the money list for safetys. I'm not suggesting that Reed is not worth much more than that in NFL value. Just that the writer was overstating Reed's sacrifice.
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I donno...I read so much about whinney players I don't mind reading about guys who play at a high level and don't cry about their money.

Me either. These days this is almost like a Bigfoot sighting!

An NFL player who's not complaining about his money? Quick, somebody get a photograph!
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And do you know what makes it even more amazing??? He is from 'The U'
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I donno...I read so much about whinney players I don't mind reading about guys who play at a high level and don't cry about their money.
you mean the other 90% of the NFL?

The Silent Majority.
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you mean the other 90% of the NFL?

The Silent Majority.

Or the "Secret Service". It's like those guys are invisible because your typical T.O. types suck up all the coverage. You can't hear that 90% over the roar that the other 10% make.
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And do you know what makes it even more amazing??? He is from 'The U'
Not all guys from the "U" are whiners, See AJ.
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Not all guys from the "U" are whiners, See AJ.
AJ and Reed, now who else doesnt whine who is from the U???
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Havent heard much from Bubba Franks....
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Havent heard much from Bubba Franks....
He's actually in the middle of a contract dispute with the Packers right now, but he's been relatively quiet much of his career. He wants more than what they tendered him this season. I believe his agent is Rosenhaus, and there is rumors of a holdout. However, Franks has said he only wants to play with the Packers next season.
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Starks (lack of production) and Morgan (injuries) dont have the right to talk.

Not sure, but didnt Moss and Taylor refuse to go the Redskins training sessions this year???
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Starks has a superbowl ring as part of the greatest defense in history (or among them) And he had 6 interceptions with 17 defensed passes. Thats VERY good. He was an important part of that 12-4 Ravens superbowl team.

and Morgan has been to the superbowl. Is injury prone, but did have 100 tackles in 12 games in 2004. He is like a poor mans Urlacher.

Both were starters at their positions. I think they got plently to hold their hats on. Starks certainly does.
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Starks has a superbowl ring as part of the greatest defense in history (or among them) And he had 6 interceptions with 17 defensed passes. Thats VERY good. He was an important part of that 12-4 Ravens superbowl team.

and Morgan has been to the superbowl. Is injury prone, but did have 100 tackles in 12 games in 2004. He is like a poor mans Urlacher.

Both were starters at their positions. I think they got plently to hold their hats on. Starks certainly does.
And since his days with the Ravens, Starks has played a total 25 games over 3 seasons (missed the entire 2003 season) with a total of 100 tackles and a total of only 5 interception. He was just released this offseason. He is not as good as he once was and surely can't open his mouth over a contract or give a coach a tough time.

Morgan is a very nice player, but he only has 4 career sacks over 4 years and has missed 22 games so I dont think he is in a position to complain about anything...

They can hold their hats for what they have done but, as of right now, they arent in position to cry over something...
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And since his days with the Ravens, Starks has played a total 25 games over 3 seasons (missed the entire 2003 season) with a total of 100 tackles and a total of only 5 interception. He was just released this offseason. He is not as good as he once was and surely can't open his mouth over a contract or give a coach a tough time.

Morgan is a very nice player, but he only has 4 career sacks over 4 years and has missed 22 games so I dont think he is in a position to complain about anything...

They can hold their hats for what they have done but, as of right now, they arent in position to cry over something...
Oh sorry, I thought this was about accomplishments not complaining about contracts. Yeah right now Starks and Morgan have zero leverage.
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Starks is on the Pats so if he wants to play, I doubt he will make a peep about making more money.
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Good story on Ed Reed. We always read about the guys wanting to back out of their deals. Reed was the 85'th best paid Safety last year, but clearly the best at his position. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...nfl/index.html
Ed Reed is taking the long-term perspective...he'll get a huge contract (provided he stays healthy) once his current deal expires.
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