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Old 03-28-2014   #221
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Putting a ring on it before he gets paid....

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We need to take him in the 3rd round just to get her to Houston.

Thunderkyss, I feel your pain, trust me I feel your pain.

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Putting a ring on it before he gets paid....

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Aren't most of them?
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We need to take him in the 3rd round just to get her to Houston.

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She's definitely beautiful, but I like my women with a little more in the back porch.
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This is a very good point. Foster gives us a very reliable back who has enough experience to help foster (d'oooooooooh!) a fledgling QB along. We'd need experience back there regardless to pick up the blitz. I wouldn't trust a rookie RB to shoulder that responsibility and protect Bortles...I mean Manziel...I mean Bridgewater...


uh... McCarron.
is "shoving" Aj McCarron down your throats. I just meant it as a little joke at myself. I thought it was funny.

I understand I am the only one who thinks Aj can be a productive starter in this league, & I'm fine with that. I honestly try not to start Aj McCarron discussions. I'm not in love with the kid. Wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if O'Brien laughed & stated, "At no time was Aj McCarron even considered at any time before, during, or after this draft until you asked that retarded ass question."

I've stated my opinion on the kid. I know what I would do if I were running our draft. & I know what you wouldn't. I'm fine with that. No hurt feelings here.

I know you'd rather talk about Manziel, Bridgewater, & Bortles... cool.

But I am going to bring this over from the "cut Foster" thread.

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You're on that train? David Carr 2.0.
From what I've seen, he doesn't respond well to pressure.
That's all relative.... not to defend McCarron, but any QB. Peyton has issues dealing with pressure. So does Brady (remember when the Giants stomped his azz?)... it's just varying degrees of pressure.

Some QBs like Carr eventually, start out pretty good under pressure but after too long, they start hearing footsteps. That's when I think it's an issue, when he starts hearing & responding to ghosts.
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Peyton also beats pressure. So does Brady. That's why they're so good. A lot of people like Bridgewater because he's good against pressure.

Nobody really knew what McCarron was like under pressure because his O-Line was so good that he rarely saw any. He did in the Oklahoma game though and he laid an egg.
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And I think with McCarron, it doesn't take much for him to start responding to it poorly. He had it easy with that line of his but when he did get a little pressure, he quickly fell apart. He's not accustomed to having to make decisions quickly. Maybe he has an untapped ability for that and he just needs to work on it.
To prevent that thread from going even further into the Aj McCarron deal, I'm going to defend him here.

Keep in mind I'm also the guy who wants to draft Greg Robinson with the #1 overall, then Aj McCarron with the 2-1 pick. IMO, Aj is the surest thing at QB in this years draft if we can protect him & support him with a competent productive run game. We've seen the decisions he makes when he's protected. We've seen him go through his progressions when he's protected. We've seen him dissect defenses when he's protected. And while we may not be the most talented team in the NFL, I think adding Greg Robinson to our OL will make it pretty danged good. We're not the most talented team in the league, but Andre is still arguably the best & DeAndre looks pretty damn good too. I still think Arian's got a lot of good footballl in him & adding Robinson to our line will help him be that productive running back that we need to support a QB like Aj McCarron.

Struggles under pressure? Maybe. IMO, no he doesn't beat pressure as effortlessly as Manziel. Maybe he doesn't have the same "poise" as Bridgewater... but I see him & Murray moving safeties with their eyes & their pump fakes more than I see anyone thought to be a first round QB this year. I know I'm alone in this, but that's what I see. I also see McCarron & Murray taking more hits in the pocket as they deliver a catchable ball down field..... no, I don't want my QB to take hits in the pocket. But sooner or later, he's going to have to. At least all the great ones do. Rodgers, Peyton, Brady... I'm pretty sure none of them want to get hit either, but it happens.

Had a bad game against Oklahoma? Yeah, he had a bad game. I think he's had three games that I would consider "bad." Again, it happens. But only three bad games when you're the QB of the defending championship team three years in a row, in the toughest defensive division in all of college football.... that's not that bad. It's not like he struggled against the up & coming UH Cougar defense.

Greg McElroy and John Parker Wilson won Championships with that team..... no they didn't. Same uniforms, same offense, same coach... different teams. He threw for more yards than either of them, his completion percentage way above either of them, his ypa higher, TD/Int ratio, better... he was a much better QB than they were & a bigger part of Alabama wins than they were.


No doubt he played on a talented team (I plan on putting him on a talented team) but imo, he should be a top 10 prospect. He's got the size, the pedigree, the production, ran a pro style, plays under center, has good mechanics (his feet, the way he carries the ball, his delivery), he makes good decisions, he's a leader, he puts in the extra time, he keeps his nose clean, he didn't look to the sideline for calls & he did it all consistently. Some people question his arm, I think it's strong enough.

If we get him at the top of the 2nd round, I'll think it was a steal. If we get him later, even better.
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is "shoving" Aj McCarron down your throats. I just meant it as a little joke at myself. I thought it was funny.

I understand I am the only one who thinks Aj can be a productive starter in this league, & I'm fine with that. I honestly try not to start Aj McCarron discussions. I'm not in love with the kid. Wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if O'Brien laughed & stated, "At no time was Aj McCarron even considered at any time before, during, or after this draft until you asked that retarded ass question."

I've stated my opinion on the kid. I know what I would do if I were running our draft. & I know what you wouldn't. I'm fine with that. No hurt feelings here.

I know you'd rather talk about Manziel, Bridgewater, & Bortles... cool.

But I am going to bring this over from the "cut Foster" thread.





To prevent that thread from going even further into the Aj McCarron deal, I'm going to defend him here.

Keep in mind I'm also the guy who wants to draft Greg Robinson with the #1 overall, then Aj McCarron with the 2-1 pick. IMO, Aj is the surest thing at QB in this years draft if we can protect him & support him with a competent productive run game. We've seen the decisions he makes when he's protected. We've seen him go through his progressions when he's protected. We've seen him dissect defenses when he's protected. And while we may not be the most talented team in the NFL, I think adding Greg Robinson to our OL will make it pretty danged good. We're not the most talented team in the league, but Andre is still arguably the best & DeAndre looks pretty damn good too. I still think Arian's got a lot of good footballl in him & adding Robinson to our line will help him be that productive running back that we need to support a QB like Aj McCarron.

Struggles under pressure? Maybe. IMO, no he doesn't beat pressure as effortlessly as Manziel. Maybe he doesn't have the same "poise" as Bridgewater... but I see him & Murray moving safeties with their eyes & their pump fakes more than I see anyone thought to be a first round QB this year. I know I'm alone in this, but that's what I see. I also see McCarron & Murray taking more hits in the pocket as they deliver a catchable ball down field..... no, I don't want my QB to take hits in the pocket. But sooner or later, he's going to have to. At least all the great ones do. Rodgers, Peyton, Brady... I'm pretty sure none of them want to get hit either, but it happens.

Had a bad game against Oklahoma? Yeah, he had a bad game. I think he's had three games that I would consider "bad." Again, it happens. But only three bad games when you're the QB of the defending championship team three years in a row, in the toughest defensive division in all of college football.... that's not that bad. It's not like he struggled against the up & coming UH Cougar defense.

Greg McElroy and John Parker Wilson won Championships with that team..... no they didn't. Same uniforms, same offense, same coach... different teams. He threw for more yards than either of them, his completion percentage way above either of them, his ypa higher, TD/Int ratio, better... he was a much better QB than they were & a bigger part of Alabama wins than they were.


No doubt he played on a talented team (I plan on putting him on a talented team) but imo, he should be a top 10 prospect. He's got the size, the pedigree, the production, ran a pro style, plays under center, has good mechanics (his feet, the way he carries the ball, his delivery), he makes good decisions, he's a leader, he puts in the extra time, he keeps his nose clean, he didn't look to the sideline for calls & he did it all consistently. Some people question his arm, I think it's strong enough.

If we get him at the top of the 2nd round, I'll think it was a steal. If we get him later, even better.
If we go with Clowney in the first, I would assume AJ would be the best pick at 33 for us given he has the same traits that BOB likes in the QBs he has played with. Shoot Im ok with Fitz starting all season and letting McCarron sit on the bench the year, throw in Keenum if Fitz has problems. McCarron can be our future QB.
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is "shoving" Aj McCarron down your throats. I just meant it as a little joke at myself. I thought it was funny.

I understand I am the only one who thinks Aj can be a productive starter in this league, & I'm fine with that. I honestly try not to start Aj McCarron discussions. I'm not in love with the kid. Wouldn't hurt my feelings one bit if O'Brien laughed & stated, "At no time was Aj McCarron even considered at any time before, during, or after this draft until you asked that retarded ass question."

I've stated my opinion on the kid. I know what I would do if I were running our draft. & I know what you wouldn't. I'm fine with that. No hurt feelings here.

I know you'd rather talk about Manziel, Bridgewater, & Bortles... cool.

But I am going to bring this over from the "cut Foster" thread.


To prevent that thread from going even further into the Aj McCarron deal, I'm going to defend him here.

Keep in mind I'm also the guy who wants to draft Greg Robinson with the #1 overall, then Aj McCarron with the 2-1 pick. IMO, Aj is the surest thing at QB in this years draft if we can protect him & support him with a competent productive run game. We've seen the decisions he makes when he's protected. We've seen him go through his progressions when he's protected. We've seen him dissect defenses when he's protected. And while we may not be the most talented team in the NFL, I think adding Greg Robinson to our OL will make it pretty danged good. We're not the most talented team in the league, but Andre is still arguably the best & DeAndre looks pretty damn good too. I still think Arian's got a lot of good footballl in him & adding Robinson to our line will help him be that productive running back that we need to support a QB like Aj McCarron.

Struggles under pressure? Maybe. IMO, no he doesn't beat pressure as effortlessly as Manziel. Maybe he doesn't have the same "poise" as Bridgewater... but I see him & Murray moving safeties with their eyes & their pump fakes more than I see anyone thought to be a first round QB this year. I know I'm alone in this, but that's what I see. I also see McCarron & Murray taking more hits in the pocket as they deliver a catchable ball down field..... no, I don't want my QB to take hits in the pocket. But sooner or later, he's going to have to. At least all the great ones do. Rodgers, Peyton, Brady... I'm pretty sure none of them want to get hit either, but it happens.

Had a bad game against Oklahoma? Yeah, he had a bad game. I think he's had three games that I would consider "bad." Again, it happens. But only three bad games when you're the QB of the defending championship team three years in a row, in the toughest defensive division in all of college football.... that's not that bad. It's not like he struggled against the up & coming UH Cougar defense.

Greg McElroy and John Parker Wilson won Championships with that team..... no they didn't. Same uniforms, same offense, same coach... different teams. He threw for more yards than either of them, his completion percentage way above either of them, his ypa higher, TD/Int ratio, better... he was a much better QB than they were & a bigger part of Alabama wins than they were.


No doubt he played on a talented team (I plan on putting him on a talented team) but imo, he should be a top 10 prospect. He's got the size, the pedigree, the production, ran a pro style, plays under center, has good mechanics (his feet, the way he carries the ball, his delivery), he makes good decisions, he's a leader, he puts in the extra time, he keeps his nose clean, he didn't look to the sideline for calls & he did it all consistently. Some people question his arm, I think it's strong enough.

If we get him at the top of the 2nd round, I'll think it was a steal. If we get him later, even better.
I wouldn't mind McCarron either. Just don't understand why being on a talented team makes him a bad quarterback.

So if the Texans decided to trade down and get an OT or Mack, and then McCarron or Murray in the second, I wouldn't be upset. I don't think he'll make it pass the second round though, but that's just a hunch.
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I could see McCarron being a solid backup in the NFL, but he still seems to be a less talented Matt Barkley to me. Ken Dorsey seems about right

Him dropping to the 3rd wouldn't be a shock, with the Big 3, Carr, and Garappalo (however you spell it) going ahead of him.
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I think McCarron can run a pro offense.

I think his arm talent is ok.

I wouldn't object if we took him in the 3rd or 4th and let him compete.

I'd probably be upset if we took him 2:1
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Good INTERVIEW..............seems like he has his head screwed on solidly and can critique himself accurately.
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I'd probably be upset if we took him 2:1
For me, it really depends on what other QBs are left.
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Good INTERVIEW..............seems like he has his head screwed on solidly and can critique himself accurately.
I think he's being underrated by a lot of people. Similar to the situation Russell Wilson is now. Yes, Russell Wilson is on a heck of a team, with a heck of a run game & a heck of a defense. But Wilson is still playing very well on that team. Same with McCarron. Because Greg McElroy & John Wilson Parker came from Alabama & won National Championships with Alabama, & won't make a pimple on a back up QBs arse.... people think the same of McCarron.
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"Good size and height. Balanced passer and gets into a rhythm quickly with proper mechanics. Sees the field well and makes smart, sharp decisions. Nice job stepping up and moves well within the pocket, showing good footwork to avoid the rush while keeping his eyes downfield. Average athlete with enough foot speed to buy time and make plays outside the pocket. Nice job recognizing pressure, adjusting and surveying, not afraid to throw the ball away. Good timing and accuracy and throws a very catchable ball with nice touch. High football IQ and operates the offensive gameplan very efficiently. Doesn?t miss throws he should make and takes what the defense gives him. Confident leader with professional intangibles. Shows good fight and resolve on the field." (Dane Brugler, CBS Sports)
IMO he's the closest thing to a #1 overall QB in this draft & we'll most likely have a chance to get him at 2-1 (I know how that sounds).

Since there is so much talk about him being available in the third, maybe the 4th I'd gamble on him being there at 2-1 & I'll most likely take him there. But if there was even an inkling of someone taking him before that... if there's one news story that suggest someone else is thinking about taking him in the first, I'd take him at #1 overall.

But that's not going to happen, so we don't have to worry about that.
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Good INTERVIEW..............seems like he has his head screwed on solidly and can critique himself accurately.
AJ turned a few teams off and a lot of the media off at the Combine with an attitude,

He earned the nickname "Bieber" 1) because he repeatedly said the same thing Bieber apparently also says, "People hate me because I'm good" and 2) because he resembles the kid.

He may have a strong arm, but he did not play with a strong arm and had below average velocity. His accuracy was, at best, variable and he did not drive the ball downfield. He threw better at the Combine.
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Man, the background music in that video is annoying.
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