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Old 08-19-2013   #41
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I'll go slow on him though.
I wish the team would, too. I think I'd manage my "assets" a bit more conservatively. Not everyone can do what A.P. did with different injuries.
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Kube's says Posey will play against Dallas but that Merci won't. He cites turf as one of the reasons not to play Merci. If turf is a concern with a hamstring, wouldn't it be more so for an Achilles injury?

Is playing Posey a very good idea? I'd like to see him be able to contribute in the regular season much more than play in a game that's meaningless to anyone not fighting for a job.

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(on how WR DeVier Posey has been over the last few days) “He’s been good. He practiced today. I’m going to play him in the game. It’ll probably be a brief appearance, but he needs to just get out there and get his feet wet so to speak. He’ll probably play about 12 plays. Get hit. Get tackled. All that confidence he’s been working on, just make sure he’s ready to go. But he’s good.”
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(on if OLB Whitney Mercilus will play against Dallas) “No, I don’t see that happening. I don’t think we make that decision with such a short notice here and, the fact we’re going there on turf, I think we’ll just be smart and we’ll use our time and get him ready to go for San Diego.”
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Kube's says Posey will play against Dallas but that Merci won't. He cites turf as one of the reasons not to play Merci. If turf is a concern with a hamstring, wouldn't it be more so for an Achilles injury?

Is playing Posey a very good idea? I'd like to see him be able to contribute in the regular season much more than play in a game that's meaningless to anyone not fighting for a job.

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Achilles typically tend to snap after cumulative stress. The final blow can be simply stepping off of a curb. However, this is a case of a repaired injury that is only 7 month past surgery. Artificial turf has been undoubtedly link to higher incidence of all muscle, tendon and ligament injuries. My impression is that his performance this year will fall short of all of high expectations floating out there by the Texans. But no matter what MY opinion on that may be, they've already rolled the dice and taken him off of PUP. I cannot follow the logic of putting Posey out there for a minute in a worthless game, on artificial turf, especially as he may still likely be unconsciously compensating (stressing another joint) somewhat to maintaining some semblance of form and performance at this very early stage.
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Achilles typically tend to snap after cumulative stress. The final blow can be simply stepping off of a curb. However, this is a case of a repaired injury that is only 7 month past surgery. Artificial turf has been undoubtedly link to higher incidence of all muscle, tendon and ligament injuries. My impression is that his performance this year will fall short of all of high expectations floating out there by the Texans. But no matter what MY opinion on that may be, they've already rolled the dice and taken him off of PUP. I cannot follow the logic of putting Posey out there for a minute in a worthless game, on artificial turf, especially as he may still likely be unconsciously compensating (stressing another joint) somewhat to maintaining some semblance of form and performance at this very early stage.
Thanks CnD!! We are thinking along the same lines. I also have pretty low expectations for him this year, but I certainly wouldn't risk whatever production he can provide by playing him Thursday night.
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...I cannot follow the logic of putting Posey out there for a minute in a worthless game, on artificial turf...
I can't, either. Why not put him on that injury designation that keeps him out for another 6 weeks? That would put him at ~9 months post op before game action.
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If he's ready - he's ready. Why conform to some internet message board standard when the Texans have Dr's available that have actually looked at the injury and his recovery. Knowing how conservative Kubes tends to be with this sort of thing actually leads me to believe he is simply way ahead of the internet guru's pre-conceived notions of a schedule.
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I can't, either. Why not put him on that injury designation that keeps him out for another 6 weeks? That would put him at ~9 months post op before game action.
Wouldn't it have made more sense to have left him on the preseason PUP, then converted him to the regular season PUP and taken off after 6 weeks? You want to leave that "designated" PUP status open for one of your important starters should they get injured during the 1st half of the season.
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Wouldn't it have made more sense to have left him on the preseason PUP, then converted him to the regular season PUP and taken off after 6 weeks? You want to leave that "designated" PUP status open for one of your important starters should they get injured during the 1st half of the season.
Only Kubes can answer that. I'm sure your heart and thoughts are in the right place and your expertise is unquestioned - so that weighs heavily on my analysis. But the bottom line is the Texans Dr's apparently disagree with your conclusions.

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Wouldn't it have made more sense to have left him on the preseason PUP, then converted him to the regular season PUP and taken off after 6 weeks? You want to leave that "designated" PUP status open for one of your important starters should they get injured during the 1st half of the season.
So if you're on the Regular season PUP, can you be taken off any week prior to that 6 week period? Say, three weeks in? Or do you have to wait out all 6 weeks?
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We do not have a viable WR2 at this time, Jean is closest.
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So if you're on the Regular season PUP, can you be taken off any week prior to that 6 week period? Say, three weeks in? Or do you have to wait out all 6 weeks?
Wait all 6 weeks.

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So if you're on the Regular season PUP, can you be taken off any week prior to that 6 week period? Say, three weeks in? Or do you have to wait out all 6 weeks?
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So if you're on the Regular season PUP, can you be taken off any week prior to that 6 week period? Say, three weeks in? Or do you have to wait out all 6 weeks?
You have to wait it out. You can't return early.

EDIT: Ooops. Didn't see that this was already answered.
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Hope to see DeVier continue the progress he was making at the end of last season. I saw flashes, hopefully those flashes will turn into full-on glares
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Posey is looking good.h
Yes, he is. Kinda puts to bed all of this "concern" that they brought him back too soon.

Like Porky said, if he's ready, he's ready. And tonight, he looked pretty damn ready to me.
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