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Old 08-18-2013   #81
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I like it. Only things I'd do different (since I'm too lazy to do my own 53) is IR Wade Smith, Keep Clutts. Cut Dobbins, Keep Braman. Stash Mohamed on the PS.
With Wade Smith I see 2 options. They either keep him on the roster (which is what I expect which means Clutts is gone), or they cut him. There is little reason to IR someone who is in the last year of their contract and the team will probably not sign next year. Instead, a cut would give them a chance to recoup some of the salary hit (be it through an injury settlement or how if Wade Smith's final year is only partially/not guaranteed for injury). I'm thinking he's kept and Clutts is gone.

I do agree though that Dobbins may get cut. I'm thinking that despite his experience with the defense he is likely in the dog house from his focus on building his house during OTAs. I just wish Mays wasn't giving me Bradie James flashbacks last night when he tried to "cover" a back or TE.

I'm thinking Braman sticks, but if they keep Dobbins, it will be Pleasant who finds his way back onto the practice squad to make room for Braman. The injury situation scares me with our safeties (when might Reed be back?), but the talk of playing Harris some at safety makes me think they won't carry more than 4 safeties on the roster and instead carry more linebackers or line depth. The reason reason I think Pleasant is back to the practice squad is on special teams he seems to be performing badly/getting unnecessary penalties when we know our STs needs all the help it can get.
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Klein? Is he even in a camp right now?
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Klein? Is he even in a camp right now?
I don't know but I believe we brought him in during the OTAs and took a look at him. If they were going to put him on the PS, you'd think they'd have already gotten rid of McGee and brought Klein in so he can be getting some training.
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I don't know but I believe we brought him in during the OTAs and took a look at him. If they were going to put him on the PS, you'd think they'd have already gotten rid of McGee and brought Klein in so he can be getting some training.
Yeah, that's why I was asking. It would be kind of weird to use a PS spot on him over other guys currently in camp. Especially for a player not invited to any team's camp in the league.
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I like it. Only things I'd do different (since I'm too lazy to do my own 53) is IR Wade Smith, Keep Clutts. Cut Dobbins, Keep Braman. Stash Mohamed on the PS.
Mohamed has looked better than any other ILB not named Cushing. Not sure he should be kept out of the roster
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Mohamed has looked better than any other ILB not named Cushing. Not sure he should be kept out of the roster
Right now, the obvious ILB rotation... judging by when guys have come into the games... it's:

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It's interesting because early on in TC, it was Cameron Collins that was getting 1st team reps. But then he got hurt and now, he's fallen off the charts.

One of Mohamed and Davis could make it... but I don't see them on the team if Dobbins makes it.
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It's interesting because early on in TC, it was Cameron Collins that was getting 1st team reps. But then he got hurt and now, he's fallen off the charts.

One of Mohamed and Davis could make it... but I don't see them on the team if Dobbins makes it.
I've seen both Collins & Mohamed take snaps at both ILB & OLB. Haven't seen much from Collins. I don't know if Mohamed has PS eligibility anymore. He's been on Denver's PS & the Jags PS....

But I like his size. Sharpton & Mays has experience, & Mohamed has been in the league for a couple of years. The three of them & Dobbins.... pretty much the same guy. Wade isn't going to be asking them to do anything too complicated & the young legs would be good fro STs.

I like Dobbins... but I'm not attached.
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Mohamed still has practice squad eligibility, but as a third year player, the Texans would be required to keep 53 players on the roster to have him on the practice squad. If they drop to 52, he would automatically be brought up to the active roster (not sure how that works if they cut someone to sign someone the same day though).

Here is a good list of everyone eligible that the Texans had on their 90 man roster back in July:

http://www.stateofthetexans.com/texa...squad-players/
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OFFENSE (25)
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Karim
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey, Bonner
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, B. Williams
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (25)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Dobbins, Sharpton
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Carmichael, Bouye
S: Manning, Swearinger, Keo, Pleasant

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

PUP LIST (1)
S: E. Reed
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OFFENSE (25)
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Karim
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey, Bonner
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, B. Williams
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (25)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Dobbins, Sharpton
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Carmichael, Bouye
S: Manning, Swearinger, Keo, Pleasant

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

PUP LIST (1)
S: E. Reed
I am not sure about ROC. If Bonner not able to play, Texans may put him on IR to keep him where safe. For an extra WR spot, Texans may put Lemon in there. T position, Menkin may have a chance depends on how he performs in remaining pre-season games. With nice showing of UDFA LBs, I think there's a possibility of keeping 10 LBs on roster. I don't know how the final 53 will be but, this is how I see it at the moment.
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OFFENSE (25)
QB: Schaub, Keenum
RB: Ben Tate, Karim, Wood, D. Johnson
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey, Bonner
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, A. Gardner
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones


DEFENSE (25)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain, Jones
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams, W. Jefferson
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Sharpton
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Carmichael
S: Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Keo


SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks


IR (1)
OT: Brennan Williams


PUP LIST (1)
RB: Arian Foster


Practice Squad (7)Lemon WR, Hunter DT, Cody White OG/C, McGee QB, Mohamed LB, Bouye CB, Tuggle OLB

Trades (1)
TJ Yates for 2nd Rd. Draft Pick
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OFFENSE (24)
QB: Schaub,Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Wood
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris, A. Gardner
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE (26)
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain, Jones
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, Montgomery, T. Williams, W. Jefferson
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Sharpton, Dobbins
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Bouye
S: Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Keo

SPECIAL TEAMS (3)
K: Bullock
P: Lechler
LS: Weeks

PUP - Bonner & Brennan Williams.


Practice Squad
Lemon
Hunter
Cody White
Mohamed
Tuggle
Pleasant


Shapiro end up with a mysterious injury sending him to the PUP or IR.
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Neither Bonner, nor B Williams is eligible for PUP. If they don't make your roster, it's either cut or PS or IR if you can show an injury.

Some interesting work there guys. I don't see anyone giving us a #2 for TJ Yates. I could maybe see a 3 or 4 if I really stretch it, and a team got really desperate but he hasn't shown he is a capable FT starter at all, and a team isn't going to give up a #2 for a backup anything imho.

Also don't see how Bonner makes it at this point.
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Neither Bonner, nor B Williams is eligible for PUP. If they don't make your roster, it's either cut or PS or IR if you can show an injury.

Some interesting work there guys. I don't see anyone giving us a #2 for TJ Yates. I could maybe see a 3 or 4 if I really stretch it, and a team got really desperate but he hasn't shown he is a capable FT starter at all, and a team isn't going to give up a #2 for a backup anything imho.

Also don't see how Bonner makes it at this point.
How come they aren't PUP eligible ?
Bonner would probably be safe on the PS, but no way would 3rd round pick
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Neither Bonner, nor B Williams is eligible for PUP. If they don't make your roster, it's either cut or PS or IR if you can show an injury.

Some interesting work there guys. I don't see anyone giving us a #2 for TJ Yates. I could maybe see a 3 or 4 if I really stretch it, and a team got really desperate but he hasn't shown he is a capable FT starter at all, and a team isn't going to give up a #2 for a backup anything imho.

Also don't see how Bonner makes it at this point.
Thanks, made a couple of adjustments.

I think Foster/Reed are interchangeable. Bottom line is we want both of them full strength come playoff time. I would prefer to be sure on Arian concerning his back, would like to see his career extended. Also need to find out what Tate could do given the #1 reps plus get a chance to see what the young backs bring.

Yates deserves a chance to start, he is ready. Just one example of another teams QB woes but I would take him over Mark Sanchez or Tim Tebow anyday. Look what teams gave up for them. He is cheap, developed & does have significant trade value IMO (they could get 3rd rd. offers all day but I would hold out for that 2nd).

Texans need to move forward with Case Keenam, he need the reps.

I really had my doubts going into the draft that Brennan Williams would be able to play this season, nothing so far has changed my mind.
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Don't see this happening. Just yesterday, in the after practice "Quotes", Kubiak said Shapiro was "gonna play somewhere in this league."

He's just allowing Shapiro to audition.
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Bonner would probably be safe on the PS, but no way would 3rd round pick
B. Williams.
To be eligible they cannot have practiced in team drills/not been on the PUP list in training camp. At this point, only Foster or Reed could be PUP'ed.

I know Indy got in trouble with Bradshaw because they had him taking handoffs in a drill before he was officially removed off the training camp PUP, which forced them to remove him off when they did.
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QB: Schaub,Yates, Keenum
RB: Foster, Tate, Karim
FB: G. Jones
WR: Johnson, Hopkins, Martin, Jean, Posey
TE: Daniels, Graham, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, R. Harris
OG: W. Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, B. Jones

DEFENSE
DE: Watt, A. Smith, Jamison, Crick
NT: Mitchell, McClain, Jones
OLB: B. Reed, Mercilus, Braman, W. Jefferson, Tuggle, Trevardo
ILB: Cushing, Mays, Sharpton, Dobbins
CB: Joseph, Jackson, McCain, B. Harris, Bouye
S: Reed, Manning, Swearinger, Keo

SPECIAL TEAMS
K: Bullock
P: Lechler, Shapiro
LS: Weeks


This is where I'm at right now.

Right now, to me Shapiro is more valuable than Trevardo Williams or Montgomery. He's played in every game and he's done a good job. He can do all the kicks...Kick offs, Punts and field goals. I'd hold on to him.

I think Montgomery is going on IR.
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