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Old 08-05-2013   #21
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There's a few people I don't see making the team on your list either. But I'm not going to debate that right now. I picked mahael for a reason.
I was mainly pointing out you listed 54 with only 53 spots. Since WR had 6 in the position group, I figured it would be the spot you'd cut from. Who do you see as being the most cutable out of the 54 you listed to drop to 53? Clutts, Jefferson, Chris Jones, Braman, Carmichael or someone else?
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It's wayyyyy early, but Trevardo needs to step it up.
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I heard he had an interception return off a tip this last practice, but none of the OLBs seem to be getting great reviews on run defense, and both Trevardo and Braman I've heard being swallowed up by tackles against the pass too. Speed doesn't help either if they let the lineman get their hands on them every time.
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I heard he had an interception return off a tip this last practice, but none of the OLBs seem to be getting great reviews on run defense, and both Trevardo and Braman I've heard being swallowed up by tackles against the pass too. Speed doesn't help either if they let the lineman get their hands on them every time.
Agreed. OLB is still a problem area that I don't see a readily available solution to. I hope JJ can negate that issue for at least one more season.
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I'm worried about OLB too guys, and LB in general. Inside it's health, outside its health and talent. It may be the one position that keeps this D at merely good to very good, when it has the potential to be great. I'm really happy with the talent and depth at Dline and secondary and I think that's enough to put us at or near the top 10 almost by default. The OLB's being a threat will put us over the top, and make this a top 3 type D IF we can get some guys to step it up. Big IF there.
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I think Mercilus has the talent to be a double digit sack guy if he stays healthy, but yeah, health is concerning with all the linebackers getting dinged up in training camp.

Wish there was a way we could bubble wrap them all... (know the joke on Battle Red Blog is an elbow brace is the solution for everything :-P ).
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I think Mercilus has the talent to be a double digit sack guy if he stays healthy, but yeah, health is concerning with all the linebackers getting dinged up in training camp.

Wish there was a way we could bubble wrap them all... (know the joke on Battle Red Blog is an elbow brace is the solution for everything :-P ).
Mercilus pass rushing ability is evident .... I'm seriously concerned with the OLB;s ability to set the edge / stop the run.

Braman , Mercilus , Jefferson and Williams all have the same question mark .... One of those guys has to step up alongside Brooks Reed and take the bull by the horns .... I doubt Sam Montgomery is PUP'd. I think it boils down to Jefferson making the final roster or not - Don't think he clears waivers.

Going to be some interesting decisions to make on the final 53 this year.

Cant see them keeping two FB's in Clutts & Jones .... Its one or the other.

At WR - Does Posey make the final 53 or does he go PUP ?! AJ , Hopkins , Martin , Bonner ... and Posey. Don't see 6 sticking this year. Its four if Posey goes PUP and five if he doesn't.


At ILB , its going to be tough to let Cameron Collins go. Could see carrying one less safety (Between Keo and Pleasant) and keeping him.


Man , is this team loaded at CB / Safety or what ?! Its going to be hard to cut any of those guy's.
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How many players are the Texans allowed to PUP at the beginning of the season and bring back mid-season if necessary?
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OK.

Let's see what I've got... at this point from what I've heard...

Offense (24):
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
FB: Jones, Clutts
RB: Foster, Tate, Johnson
WR: AJ, Hopkins, Martin, Bonner, Jean
TE: OD, GG, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, Harris, Williams
G: Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, Jones

Defense (26):
DL: Watt, Smith, Mitchell, Crick, Jamison, Muir
OLB: Reed, Mercilus, Montgomery, Jefferson, Williams
ILB: Cushing, Sharpton, Mays, Dobbins, Collins
CB: JJo, KJ, McCain, Harris, Bouye
S: Manning, Keo, Swearinger, Pleasant

ST (3):
K: Bullock
LS: Weeks
P: Lechler


PUP: Posey, Reed
PS: Boren (FB), Wood (RB), Lemon (WR), Tuggle (LB)
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Hope they don't need to PUP Reed. I think we can manage against the Chargers without him, but would like him for some of our other matchups afterwards :-X

Also you listed Williams as OT and also listed him on IR. From the 24 count on offense my guess is you just forgot to take him off the offense list :-)

I was thinking Roc would be a cut like your list, but then I noticed an article on the main page about him, plus some more rave reviews the past few practices. I could see him being like McManis last year and used in a trade for a vet at a position we have less depth (*cough* OLB *cough*) at though depending on what is out there...

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Let's see what I've got... at this point from what I've heard...

Offense (24):
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
FB: Jones, Clutts
RB: Foster, Tate, Johnson
WR: AJ, Hopkins, Martin, Bonner, Jean
TE: OD, GG, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, Harris, Williams
G: Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, Jones

Defense (26):
DL: Watt, Smith, Mitchell, Crick, Jamison, Muir
OLB: Reed, Mercilus, Montgomery, Jefferson, Williams
ILB: Cushing, Sharpton, Mays, Dobbins, Collins
CB: JJo, KJ, McCain, Harris, Bouye
S: Manning, Keo, Swearinger, Pleasant

ST (3):
K: Bullock
LS: Weeks
P: Lechler


PUP: Posey, Reed
PS: Boren (FB), Wood (RB), Lemon (WR), Tuggle (LB)
IR: Williams
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Hope they don't need to PUP Reed. I think we can manage against the Chargers without him, but would like him for some of our other matchups afterwards :-X
I'm not expecting him back before the 6th game. If we get him back sooner than that, great.

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lol

I debated him back and forth and back again. I meant for him to be on the roster and NOT on IR.

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I was thinking Roc would be a cut like your list, but then I noticed an article on the main page about him, plus some more rave reviews the past few practices. I could see him being like McManis last year and used in a trade for a vet at a position we have less depth (*cough* OLB *cough*) at though depending on what is out there...
Yeah... I'm not sure how those DBs are going to shake out. I've heard some good things about Carmichael, but I've also heard some bad. So I left him off.
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Well I think you were one short on defense, so it works out numbers wise.

My guess with leaving Chris Jones off the roster is he'd be practice squaded this year? Now that Miur is back from his ankle injury I could see that happening. I had left Miur off mine because I thought his injury was more serious than it looks, plus we just don't get that planetoid NT it seems everyone lusts for :-P

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I debated him back and forth and back again. I meant for him to be on the roster and NOT on IR.



Yeah... I'm not sure how those DBs are going to shake out. I've heard some good things about Carmichael, but I've also heard some bad. So I left him off.
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Well I think you were one short on defense, so it works out numbers wise.

My guess with leaving Chris Jones off the roster is he'd be practice squaded this year? Now that Miur is back from his ankle injury I could see that happening. I had left Miur off mine because I thought his injury was more serious than it looks, plus we just don't get that planetoid NT it seems everyone lusts for :-P
Yep, I put Jones on PS and Muir was a real toughie for me. I decided to stick him on. Wade isn't totally against planetoids as long as they're the right planetoids and I've liked what I've heard about Muir.

BUT... I totally forgot about Braman.
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Tell you what, Kubes and gang have some tough decisions to make. I mean here we are, a bunch of armchair QB's and we can't even make the cuts. It's tough. Some good players will have to either go to the PS or be cut. I see about 60-65 players that could potentially make an active roster - if not ours than somewhere else, and more that deserve a spot on a PS somewhere. This is a damn good group of prospects.

Things should start to work themselves out Friday. The cream tends to rise to the top. Plus, we'll have a few hangnails that turn into IR (ie stashing guys), and we have 8 that can go to the PS.
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Yeah, I think last year after our cuts 8 of the players we cut were picked up on practice squads of other teams. Grimes was also a good example of a PS player for the Texans that saw playing time on another NFL team (similiar situation with OBGY two seasons ago). We had to bring Cody White to the roster last year too due to another team wanting to snatch him from our practice squad.

Definitely an improvement from 3-4 years ago when it was the Texans often picking up scraps from other teams, not the other way around.
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Here is my early twitch reaction to how the first game would affect my roster choices. Obviously a lot can change in the next 2 games though, especially as more players get healthy and see time

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Wood, Cierre (active roster instead of PS) - I think he seemed more confident in hitting the hole then Johnson

Karem, Deji (active roster instead of being cut) - Looked good on special teams and also seemed to be a better one cut runner than Johnson. Kubes might also want a vet for the true #3.

Lemon, Alec (active roster instead of PS) - limited action/targets, but showed good hands which could keep him from being a safe practice squad stash

Mohamed, Mike (active roster instead of PS, realized he would have been #8 for me and I didn't put him on it and only had 7) - showed leadership and an understanding of the defense, also made a few nice plays

Braman, Bryan (active roster instead of being cut) - he definitely looked better as an OLB, and I think that will be key for him to make the team over Trevardo/Jefferson. The tough call is Trevardo has not looked good, but without an "injury" to stash him, I'm not sure they would be willing to cut a 4th round pick the same year they drafted him. They practice squaded Keo initially, but he was a 5th round pick and didn't have the physical talent (speed) Trevardo has.


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Johnson, Dennis (practice squad instead of Wood) - He should have let that punt go in my mind instead of fair catching, plus he danced way too much in the 2nd quarter on runs costing negative yardage

Clutts, Tyler - He looked good to me, but Kubiak mentioned after the game that he could have 4 running backs if they played great on special teams, and if they think Boren will make it on the practice squad I could see them relying on that should Greg Jones get injured later.

Bonner, Alan (maybe IR or practice squad, hope he is heathly for Miami game) - Wanted to see him, so disappointed he was injured. If he stays injured and doesn't get reps, the Texans might not worry someone would grab him off the practice squad and may also see him as too raw to make any impact this season so I could see him being p-squad stashed til next

Collins, Cameron (practice squad if he is still eligible which I believe he is) - I didn't really notice him (didn't show up on the stat sheet either). I think Mohamed looked good enough that he'd be at risk of getting picked up if they attempted to put him on the practice squad.

Williams, Trevardo (IR if at all possible) - If they can find a way to stash him on the IR, I think they will. Right now he just doesn't look ready to play OLB in the NFL, but he has too much physical talent to give up on immediately.


I'm currenty feeling good with my prediction Roc won't make the team. He looked *bad* to me in that first game.
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Let's see what I've got... at this point from what I've heard...

Offense (24):
QB: Schaub, Yates, Keenum
FB: Jones, Clutts
RB: Foster, Tate, Johnson
WR: AJ, Hopkins, Martin, Bonner, Jean
TE: OD, GG, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, Harris, Williams
G: Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, Jones

Defense (26):
DL: Watt, Smith, Mitchell, Crick, Jamison, Muir
OLB: Reed, Mercilus, Montgomery, Jefferson, Williams
ILB: Cushing, Sharpton, Mays, Dobbins, Collins
CB: JJo, KJ, McCain, Harris, Bouye
S: Manning, Keo, Swearinger, Pleasant

ST (3):
K: Bullock
LS: Weeks
P: Lechler


PUP: Posey, Reed
PS: Boren (FB), Wood (RB), Lemon (WR), Tuggle (LB)
(Removed Williams from IR)


I really like the picks! However, I'm not feeling it with D Johnson RB, I like C Wood or DJ Karim. I'm tired of waiting for Harris CB to step it up. I hope they stash Shapiro P for a year, & take over for old man Shane L. I hope they keep Jefferson OLB.
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I really like the picks! However, I'm not feeling it with D Johnson RB, I like C Wood or DJ Karim. I'm tired of waiting for Harris CB to step it up. I hope they stash Shapiro P for a year, & take over for old man Shane L. I hope they keep Jefferson OLB.
I put that together prior to the Vikings game. I'd change some of that around now.

I think Wood instead of Johnson at RB and McClain instead of Muir at DT. I'm not sure what's going to happen at OLB between Braman, Jefferson, and Tuggle.

I think someone needs to twist Shapiro's ankle or something so we can stash him on IR because the way he's punting, he's not going to stay on the PS.

Can't wait for the next game to see more.
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I put that together prior to the Vikings game. I'd change some of that around now.

I think Wood instead of Johnson at RB and McClain instead of Muir at DT. I'm not sure what's going to happen at OLB between Braman, Jefferson, and Tuggle.

I think someone needs to twist Shapiro's ankle or something so we can stash him on IR because the way he's punting, he's not going to stay on the PS.

Can't wait for the next game to see more.

I AGREE! I'm also hoping they stash Shapiro for the near future!
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Offense (24):
QB: Schaub, Yates
FB: Jones
RB: Foster, Tate, Wood
WR: AJ, Hopkins, Martin, Posey, Bonner (Jean until Posey comes off the PUP)
TE: OD, GG, Griffin
OT: Brown, Newton, Harris, Gardner , Williams
G: Smith, Brooks, Quessenberry
C: Myers, Jones

Defense (26):
DL: Watt, Smith, Mitchell, Crick, Jamison, McClain
OLB: Reed, Mercilus, Montgomery, Braman, T.Williams, Jefferson
ILB: Cushing, Sharpton, Mays, Dobbins,
CB: JJo, KJ, McCain, Harris, Bouye
S: Manning, Reed, Keo, Swearinger, Pleasant

ST (3):
K: Bullock
LS: Weeks
P: Lechler
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