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Old 07-07-2005   #141
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We had two playoff teams in our division one went to the superbowl. The New England patriots made the Colts look like a pop warner team and they swept you last year right? I would hardly call our defense an overrated unit, its not our fault we had to play the browns and niners.
we had this discussion actually on the bills board a little while ago, like i said there. you can't help who you play, your right. but when you go back and look at your season, do you actually believe your defense was tested night in and night out by the best, and stood strong.. i doubt you do. the fact is they got the 2nd place ranking because they played bad offenses, so that, added on top of a above avg defense, gives the perception that the bills are a dominant D. when reality is they were above avg, and got to play bad offensive teams, and took advantage of it, had they played some of the more high powered offenses, like the Texans did, i doubt that their #2 ranking would be that high
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Vinny, thanks for posting that. How the hell did he break out of that?
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Are these the same Bills fans that were begging us to beat Jacksonville for them?
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when reality is they were above avg, and got to play bad offensive teams, and took advantage of it, had they played some of the more high powered offenses, like the Texans did, i doubt that their #2 ranking would be that high

Who are these high powered offenses you speak of? Colts, I will give you that and Minnesota. I see no other "high powered" offenses you played last year.

If we are just above average where are our weak points on defense. There isnt one position right now that you can say is a weak point on the defense.
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Who are these high powered offenses you speak of? Colts, I will give you that and Minnesota. I see no other "high powered" offenses you played last year.

If we are just above average where are our weak points on defense. There isnt one position right now that you can say is a weak point on the defense.
Why don't you give us a game by game breakdown of who played last year and tell what you'd grade them on a 1-10 scale, 10 being the best. Include scores.
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Why don't you give us a game by game breakdown of who played last year and tell what you'd grade them on a 1-10 scale, 10 being the best. Include scores.
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Can we then stop plz. Start a new thread. Let's compare LB's or something. Hey, that'll actually be a good topic. Did your team run a 4-3 or a 3-4?
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I'll give our cheerleaders a 10

as for the Bills, they are pretty solid on D , I'll give them that.

If our OL can pass block, and if we can get any kind of pass rush, should be an exciting game. I do think we will confuse JP though.. so key for our D is stop that run and make JP beat us..


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4-3 zone blitzing scheme.
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Who are these high powered offenses you speak of? Colts, I will give you that and Minnesota. I see no other "high powered" offenses you played last year.

If we are just above average where are our weak points on defense. There isnt one position right now that you can say is a weak point on the defense
Houston= Kansas City #1, Indianapolis #2 (twice), Green Bay #3, Minnesota #4, and Denver #5, San Diego #10, Titans #11 (twice), Jets # 12, Oakland #17, Jacksonville #21 (twice), Detroit #24, Cleveland # 28, Chicago #32

Buffalo= Jacksonville# 21, Oakland#17 New England#7 (twice), N.Y. Jets#12 (twice), Miami#29 (twice), Baltimore #31, Arizona #27, St. Louis #6, Seattle #8, Cleveland #28, Cincinnati #18, San Francisco #26, Pittsburgh #16

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like i said, your Defense had it easy in comparison to the Texans D... and i dont think there are any weak players, but no stars either. just a bunch of above average players at every position
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Can we then stop plz. Start a new thread. Let's compare LB's or something. Hey, that'll actually be a good topic. Did your team run a 4-3 or a 3-4?
I Love it. Where did you get the "Beat the Dead Horse"?

Also to distill it down:

Buffalo's opponents avg. rated offense(the ranking according to the NFL or strength of schedule (lower means they faced better offenses): 18.375
Houston's opponents avg. rated offense: 12.75

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You talking about this Buffalo defense?
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yeah, i'm curious to see which of those bills are still on their defense in the clip. Cabills, can you tell us this? i can't really see the jersey numbers all that great.
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yeah, i'm curious to see which of those bills are still on their defense in the clip. Cabills, can you tell us this? i can't really see the jersey numbers all that great.
I forgot one play defines a team. Your right though I am sure I couldnt find one play of the Texans D getting scored on.

Good play none the less.
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You can see Lawyer Milloy, Takeo Spikes, looks like Clements and Winfield also. London Fletcher is one of the inital three guys he breaks away from. Hard to tell the rest from that clip.
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Who are these high powered offenses you speak of? Colts, I will give you that and Minnesota. I see no other "high powered" offenses you played last year.
We played the top five offenses in the league, including Indianapolis twice. That's six games against top five offenses.
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If ya'll go back in NFL history and look up top defenses you'll see that (for the most part) they collectively played weaker opponents for most of the seaosn.

Their are alot of things that go into winning or at leats going to a SB:
A. Strength of schedule-do you think the Pats recent legacy is tarnished if we go back and see that they played weaker opponents in one of the three seasons that they won it all, probably not. Same goes for the 90's cowgirls, 80's 49er's and redskins, and the 70's steelers. I'm sure they played some weak offensive opponents from time to time and maybe even one season they played mostly weak offensive teams. Same goes for the bills 4 AFC champs in a row. Another good one is to look up the undefeated Fins team in the early 70's and see what their strength of schedule was.

B. Luck-Some of the teams have to re-build or go through an injury ditch and the opposing teams that get to play them usually win. This is sometimes a result of the revolving schedule we got now.

There are other reasons but these are two common reasons that teams like the bills look that they have an exceptional defense when in reality they have an average/sub-par defense that couldn't tackle a sack of potatoes as long as it had #80 Texans jersey on it.
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