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Old 07-08-2013   #1
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Steph with an in depth look at the Texans' offense balances run/pass, dispelling some common myths. Great read!

Texans mythbusters: The Texans are not a “run first team”

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I read a lot of Texans content. And on of the most repeated things I read about the Texans that I think is WRONG WRONG WRONG is the statement that the Texans are a “run first team.”
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But when Dennison came to the team, he wanted the Texans offensive line to be dominant in the redzone, to be able to impose their will in the redzone by running the ball whenever they want to. And that was the beginning of Arian Foster vulturing a lot of redzone TDs. Why risk a interception when a lot of times Foster can just pick his way through the blocks and walk into the endzone? (Not as flashy as a passing TD, but I got to tell you I very much enjoy the Foster untouched, saunter-in TDs. Namaste y’all.)
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Now probably the best recent description of the Texans offensive strategy comes from a Mike Silver article (link) last year after the dismantling of the Ravens. Why do you know it is spot on? Because it heavily quotes former Texans QB Sage Rosenfels, and isn’t some random national writer dude who saw the Texans play a few nationally televised games the last few years or focuses on fantasy football stats or slept at a Holiday Inn Express one night and then tries to state his definitive opinion about the Texans...
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Do you know which team threw the ball the most in the first half of games on first down? Throwing on first down is typically seen as a more aggressive offensive play.
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Do you know what teams ran the ball the most on first down in the second half of games in 2012?
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According to the Pro Football Reference Game Play Finder...
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Default Re: Texans_Chick: Texans are not a “run first team”

There are no run first teams in the NFL. Insofar as there are running teams, the Texans are probably top 5 or so.
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Default Re: Texans_Chick: Texans are not a “run first team”

Great read as always. I followed the link to Sage Rosenfel's explanation of the offense..... good stuff
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"They're so successful because their run and pass plays, both formationally and the way they're taught, are so identical," Rosenfels said. "They only have so many actual concepts, but he does a ton of formations. He might run the same play that they've seen on film, but the defense can't figure it out, because he'll have Owen Daniels running Andre Johnson's route, or Kevin Walter running Owen's – they've switched places.

"If you think about it, there's not a lot of play-changing at the line, or declaring [which player is] the Mike linebacker, or holding the ball because no one's open and trying to make something happen. It's less playmaking than straight execution. You go through your reads and there's somewhere to go with the ball. And as somebody said to me the other day, 'Nobody gets people more wide open than Gary Kubiak.' "

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LT Duane Brown 12/19/12 quote: (on how important it is for the Texans to run the ball effectively) “It means a lot. When you’re not one-dimensional, teams can’t really get a read on what you’re trying to do. For us, it all starts with the run game. We’re able to run the ball well, get teams keying on that, and it opens up a whole lot for our offense; and if you’re able to do both, stay balanced throughout the whole game, it opens up our whole playbook.”

WR Andre Johnson 12/19/12 quote: (on the balance of the Texans’ offense and using the play-action) “When we’re able to run the ball well, it just opens up everything else. It’s always been like that since (Head) Coach (Gary) Kubiak has been here. When they brought in this style of offense, whenever the run game is going, it just opens up everything else. Sometimes you may run the ball and you may not hit those big runs like you want to at first, but you may hit a few passes and you see the run game open up and then everything else becomes kind of easy. I think that’s the biggest thing for us is just getting our run game going. When we do that, we tend to win a lot of games and it just opens everything else up.”
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"If you think about it, there's not a lot of play-changing at the line, or declaring [which player is] the Mike linebacker, or holding the ball because no one's open and trying to make something happen. It's less playmaking than straight execution. You go through your reads and there's somewhere to go with the ball."
That's the part that's hard (conceptually) as a fan when we don't see an audible. They simply aren't desinged for it as much.
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That's the part that's hard (conceptually) as a fan when we don't see an audible. They simply aren't desinged for it as much.
Yeah.

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That's the part that's hard (conceptually) as a fan when we don't see an audible. They simply aren't desinged for it as much.
Soooo... when a play doesn't work that means someone didn't see the open guy or didn't pick the right cutback lane...right?

I mean, if we've called a run and the defense brings nine guys up, I just don't see the advantage of not checking into a quick slant to A.J. or O.D....

the mind boggles
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Soooo... when a play doesn't work that means someone didn't see the open guy or didn't pick the right cutback lane...right?

I mean, if we've called a run and the defense brings nine guys up, I just don't see the advantage of not checking into a quick slant to A.J. or O.D....

the mind boggles
You're assuming that isn't a potential option on the play...without yelling out signals.
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Soooo... when a play doesn't work that means someone didn't see the open guy or didn't pick the right cutback lane...right?

I mean, if we've called a run and the defense brings nine guys up, I just don't see the advantage of not checking into a quick slant to A.J. or O.D....

the mind boggles
You're making a huge assumption that just because the base play is a run that the reads can't morph the play into a pass. From what they've said about the system, that's part of the play design. Of course, they've also said that when there's a lead and the other team is loading up the box, they believe they can run on those fronts AND that's when they can pop long ones.

But back to the original point... Remember a few years ago against the Seahawks when AJ scored on that great pass on the 2nd or 3rd play of the game? IIRC, that was a called run BUT when they read man-to-man on AJ, they shifted the entire play to a pass. That was part of their game-plan for that game, whenever the Seahawks go man-to-man on AJ, make them pay.

The whole thing is that it doesn't have to be a big production to shift from one play to the other.
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You're making a huge assumption that just because the base play is a run that the reads can't morph the play into a pass. From what they've said about the system, that's part of the play design. Of course, they've also said that when there's a lead and the other team is loading up the box, they believe they can run on those fronts AND that's when they can pop long ones.

But back to the original point... Remember a few years ago against the Seahawks when AJ scored on that great pass on the 2nd or 3rd play of the game? IIRC, that was a called run BUT when they read man-to-man on AJ, they shifted the entire play to a pass. That was part of their game-plan for that game, whenever the Seahawks go man-to-man on AJ, make them pay.

The whole thing is that it doesn't have to be a big production to shift from one play to the other.
Peyton Manning takes offense to this. But I honestly do wonder how many times he doesn't even change the play after all that pre-snap action.
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Peyton Manning takes offense to this. But I honestly do wonder how many times he doesn't even change the play after all that pre-snap action.
I think a lot of it is just for show, trying to get into the defender's heads and make them change their defense to something less aggressive or to make them overthink what they're reads are.
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Arian Foster carried the ball 351 times last yr, but the Texans aren't a running team. LOL

On a side note Gary will be starting his 8th yr as HC. How many more yrs does he get if his team doesn't improve in the playoffs? !0-20 yrs?
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Arian Foster carried the ball 351 times last yr, but the Texans aren't a running team. LOL

On a side note Gary will be starting his 8th yr as HC. How many more yrs does he get if his team doesn't improve in the playoffs? !0-20 yrs?
As far as I'm concerned, as long as he's putting a good team on the field, he's getting a chance. He can even have a few off years here and there.

I hate the swinging door, no-patience FO approach to coaches.
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Arian Foster carried the ball 351 times last yr, but the Texans aren't a running team. LOL
Matt Schaub threw the ball 544 times.


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On a side note Gary will be starting his 8th yr as HC. How many more yrs does he get if his team doesn't improve in the playoffs? !0-20 yrs?
If we get trounced by the Patriots again, even in the regular season, he should be gone.

As a matter of fact, Bob McNair should have had a long talk with Kubiak on that plane ride home ("talk" being a euphemism).
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The Texans had the 4th most rushing attempts last season and 18th most pass attempts.
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As far as I'm concerned, as long as he's putting a good team on the field, he's getting a chance. He can even have a few off years here and there.

I hate the swinging door, no-patience FO approach to coaches.
8 yrs is hardly a swinging door approach.

Seems as though you may be a Kubiak HC for life kida guy.
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& the 7th rank offense.
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8 yrs is hardly a swinging door approach.

Seems as though you may be a Kubiak HC for life kida guy.
The list of HCs who have been fired after 3 straight playoff seasons (your scenario) is very short. Even Shottenheimer doesn't qualify. Maybe you can supply some names where doing so has worked out well for a team.
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Whoa!! WHOA!!!

Are we suggesting that the Texans DON'T run the ball first? (Although I will concede that on occasions, they have to go the other way)....

The Texans feature their running game to exploit the passing game, irrespective of what the stats are in comparison..


It's a passing league, no?

Most defenses are set up to stop the pass, yes? Those teams are suspect for the Texans running attack.

There are some defenses built to stop the run.... That's when 'Dre and hopefully "dre jr (aka DeAndre Hopkins) and OD run wild on they asses!!!



BOTTOM LINE... Run first team!
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The Texans feature their running game to exploit the passing game, irrespective of what the stats are in comparison..
I've never seen it that way. Points come out of the passing game, we score a lot of points. We have a back-up QB as a head coach, back up QBs like to throw the ball....

We throw the ball to get the lead & run the ball to keep it.
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BOTTOM LINE... Run first team!
Bottom line Houston is a balanced attack team. Here are the top 4 rushing teams last season.

Seattle Seahawks - 405 passing attempts, 536 rushing attempts - 43% passing.
Washington Redskins - 442 passing attempts, 519 rushing attempts - 46% passing.

Contrast:
Houston Texans - 554 passing attempts, 504 rushing attempts - 53% passing.
New England Patriots - 641 passing attempts, 523 rushing attempts - 55% passing.

Run first teams don't put up over 4000 yds passing year in and year out.
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