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Old 10-28-2013   #161
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The true irony would be the people that are protesting the Redskins name are still okay with using $20 bills with Andrew Jackson's face adorned smack dab in the middle of their currency.

Indian Removal Act of 1830/Trail of Tears ring any bells?

Let's get butthurt over something trivial like a football franchise name, but completely ignore something that is on a much much bigger scale like US currency.
Implying that people have forgotten the "trail of tears"? I envision Jackson in hell being tormented by every Indian who found himself/herself in Satan's company...but that's just me.
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The true irony would be the people that are protesting the Redskins name are still okay with using $20 bills with Andrew Jackson's face adorned smack dab in the middle of their currency.

Indian Removal Act of 1830/Trail of Tears ring any bells?

Let's get butthurt over something trivial like a football franchise name, but completely ignore something that is on a much much bigger scale like US currency.
Somebody beat you to that punchline long time ago.

Petition: Remove Jackson From the Twenty

Also, a website devoted to the cause: www.getjacksonoffthe20.net

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Somebody beat you to that punchline long time ago.

Petition: Remove Jackson From the Twenty

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Well of course there are people petitioning it, but my point is that most of the people protesting the Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, etc. are completely oblivious when it comes to Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.
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Well of course there are people petitioning it, but my point is that most of the people protesting the Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, etc. are completely oblivious when it comes to Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.
Oh, I agree with you. I was just curious and checked Google. I never knew there was an actual movement to remove Jackson from the $20 until you mentioned it. Honestly I find it kinda' bizarre, but to each his own, I guess.

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I think what we have here is a trailing vowel issue.

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Yet not all Native Americans oppose the term Redskins. Capital News Service identified three majority Native American high schools that use it proudly, including Red Mesa High School in Arizona.

“Being from Native American culture, [the term] is not derogatory,” said Tommie Yazzie, superintendent of the school district that oversees Red Mesa High School. He identified himself as a “full-blooded Navajo.”

Red Mesa High School is located on a Navajo reservation, and 99.3 percent of its students are Native American, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

Yazzie said people on his reservation care about more pressing things than the use of the name Redskins.

“Education, public health ‒ those are the things we’re more concerned about, rather than whether a team name is appropriate,” he said.

Though he said it was acceptable for schools with majority Native American populations to use the name Redskins, he believes that non‐Native American schools should avoid using it.

“If you were to put this in an urban area where the population is basically white, unless there is a cultural connection, it would be inappropriate,” he said.

He was also troubled by the use of Native American war chants and gestures during sporting events, something that is common at other schools with Native American mascots.

“We don’t use those gestures and traditions. As Navajos we have respect for warfare. Warfare means taking a life. And when a young warrior goes out to battle, [the gestures and war chants] belong there,” he said. “When you come back into civilian life, you don’t take that back with you. You don’t use the same type of gestures and hollering and bring that back into a sporting event.”
They need their own rap culture, the self loathing bastages.
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I'm amazed 50 senators could agree on anything...
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Default Re: Should the Redskins change their name?

Now my main reason for keeping the name is just to stick one to the politicians
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The problem for the NFL is that these politicians have great power over the league due to the antitrust exemption.

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In a strongly-written letter to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, two lawmakers — Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., chairwoman of the Indian Affairs Committee, and Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., member of the Native American Caucus — indicated the league’s tax-exempt status could be on the line if the Washington Redskins does not change its name, the New York Times reported Sunday.

“The National Football League is on the wrong side of history,” the lawmakers wrote. “It is not appropriate for this multibillion-dollar 501(c)(6) tax-exempt organization to perpetuate and profit from the continued degradation of tribes and Indian people.”

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That's not even an implied threat, but a straight up ultimatum. This issue could snowball and eventually force the NFL to change the name in order to protect their profit stream.

What is more important to the owners? Money or principle? Not really a serious question...
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I don't know if this was in the comments of said article since it's blocked at work but kind of funny and kind of truthful.

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Here is an email sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins.


Dear Mr. Page...



I always love your articles. and I generally agree with them. I would suggest, as in an email I received, they change the name to the "Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Congress.

Here are some other politically correctness to consider: I agree with our Native American population. I am highly insulted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins. One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward. Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.



The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.



The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives.



I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.



Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!



Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.



The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children.



The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates . Wrong message to our children.



The Milwaukee Brewers---well that goes without saying . . . Wrong message to our children.



So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing congress loves . . .



As a die hard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in mind, it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers."

Keep those cards and letters coming.
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I don't know if this was in the comments of said article since it's blocked at work but kind of funny and kind of truthful.
Wow. Homeboy was comparing apples and spetic tanks.
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If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.
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If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.
Wow. I'm agreeing with Thorn on this one. Man maybe my female friends are right I AM a curmudgeon.
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If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.
That's what Frank Underwood would do, hit them where it truly hurts...


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If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.
yep. And this issue has not peaked. It is snowballing, and when you see 50 senators signing something, it will probably continue to gain steam.

Politicians love issues like this one. High profile, low risk. It is absolutely no work required on their part, but they get free publicity and get to morally grandstand.

The NFL has no leverage with the politicians on this issue. Between the tax-exempt status, trademark issue, and publicly financed stadiums, the NFL is at their mercy.
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yep. And this issue has not peaked. It is snowballing, and when you see 50 senators signing something, it will probably continue to gain steam.

Politicians love issues like this one. High profile, low risk. It is absolutely no work required on their part, but they get free publicity and get to morally grandstand.

The NFL has no leverage with the politicians on this issue. Between the tax-exempt status, trademark issue, and publicly financed stadiums, the NFL is at their mercy.
Queue rumours of NFL franchises being relocated to Toronto, London and Mexico City in 3...2...1...



Seriously though - agree. The NFL has no footing in this battle if the politicians want to make a fuss about this. I think it is more likely a case of when, not if the name changes.
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Redskins name controversy: 50 senators sign letter to Roger Goodell urging name change
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