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Old 06-29-2013   #81
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The primary head scratching that will be occurring in the AFC South will be Texans fans trying to figure out why the team committed such a big long term contract to Schaub before he ever played in a single playoff game. What did he deliver? Out after the wild card round, just like TJ. I keep waiting for something better, but all we hear are .... excuses. Like letting home field advantage slip away.

I am looking forward to 5-10 years of Luck dominating the division myself. It might not happen, but I hope it does.
We were the favorites to be in the Super Bowl for much of the year. Had we even got to the AFC Championship game, we'd have been paying Schaub like Flacco.

It was a gamble they took, I'd have done the same thing. So I'm not scratching my head. He may not be the best starting QB in the league, but he is a starting QB & they don't come cheap. Contrary to popular belief, Matt's not out there losing games for us. He's not winning them for us, but he's definitely not losing them.

Like I said, I'm glad there are people like you who will be holding out hope against hope that Andrew Luck is the next great QB of the AFC South. It'll make our domination that much easier.
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My response was solely to him calling Luck a bust.
That was a qualified comment. I said, "stat-wise he was kind of a bust". And perhaps "bust" was a bit strong. But that was because of all the hoopla and bally-hoo that preceded the draft.

Anyway, knowing what I know now, I'd take Russell Wilson over Luck. I actually like RGIII's game better than Luck's (Luck threw 18 picks to Wilson's 10 and RGIII's 5; that's right only FIVE picks all year) but I worry that his (RGIII's) very game-playing style won't lead to longevity.
Then again, RGIII was sacked 30 times, Luck was sacked 41. soooo, maybe it's Luck that won't last....

Anyway, point is that of the three rookie QBs that got the most media attention last year, performance-wise Luck came in third. His TEAM did much better than expected but I attribute that to them wanting badly to win for their coach as much or more than Luck's performance on the field.
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The primary head scratching that will be occurring in the AFC South will be Texans fans trying to figure out why the team committed such a big long term contract to Schaub before he ever played in a single playoff game. What did he deliver? Out after the wild card round, just like TJ. I keep waiting for something better, but all we hear are .... excuses. Like letting home field advantage slip away.

I am looking forward to 5-10 years of Luck dominating the division myself.
It might not happen, but I hope it does.
Soooo you're a Colts fan?
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Soooo you're a Colts fan?
Obsi, I though that that's been apparent for quite some time. Don't even know why he's around other than to antagonize. That's pretty much all I've seen from him.
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Obsi, I though that that's been apparent for quite some time. Don't even know why he's around other than to antagonize. That's pretty much all I've seen from him.
I don't think he's a Colts fan. He just really hates Schaub. Something about urine & cheerios I believe.
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I don't think he's a Colts fan. He just really hates Schaub. Something about urine & cheerios I believe.
Nope - he is a Colts fan. He also likes deriding Schaub.
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Obsi, I though that that's been apparent for quite some time. Don't even know why he's around other than to antagonize. That's pretty much all I've seen from him.
Actually he seems to be a fan of every team the texans play. Dont know why the guy is even here TBH. All his Avis are either Schaub getting sacked or some bad play the texans made.
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My response was solely to him calling Luck a bust.
Us calling luck a bust is like you already throwing him into the hall of fame. His numbers were terrible. And luck didnt beat us because he is a future "HOF" in your eves. He beat us cause Kubiak does what he always does, in a game he gets a lead he goes conservative, we had a lead in the AFC for the #1 seed and he goes conservative.

Luck did "OK" last season but for where he was drafted and all the hype he brought i have to agree with these guys, but he didnt have the type of season he should have with the way everyone, the media including you were and have been putting him on a pedistole.
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Obsi, I thought that that's been apparent for quite some time. Don't even know why he's around other than to antagonize. That's pretty much all I've seen from him.
then he should man up and say so.
then again, I think he just did
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I must say that Luck lived up to his namesake last year.

He was probably the most lucky QB I've seen in a given year.
Put the game tape on. In the first five games, there were at least ten of his passes that could have been interceptions; at least three were "sure" drops by a defender (and I'm being generous here since I don't want to count on my memory).

Luck has a lot of athleticism and qualities, but if he was the Texans QB last year (and if people don't make excuse for their "idol"), he would have been ripped apart on this forum; I guarantee it.

Yes, I have watched every single game he played.
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Luck has a lot of athleticism and qualities, but if he was the Texans QB last year (and if people don't make excuse for their "idol"), he would have been ripped apart on this forum; I guarantee it.
Nah.... the "new" hadn't wore off yet. We'd make excuses for him for at least two years.

Most fans are pretty "fair" with new players, especially the ones that get a lot of pre-nfl hype. Year one is just to "see" what we got. Year two, they want to see improvement. & that's where most Luck fans are, if they're honest.

He'll get about 10 games to show improvement before there will be much "noise" about not.
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Would you trade JJ for Luck ? Of course you would, and in a heart beat and you'd also throw in some boot like Andre or Cushing or maybe both ?
its a toughee, but i think i go ahead and do it if for no other reason Qb is the most important position in the game and Luck's ceiling is higher at this point.

That's not to say Watt still won't be great in the near future, it's just that he was so great last year, he's less likely to live up to that season let alone top it. I think everyone expects Luck to be much better than he was last year...and he was pretty damn good last year.

Now throwing in AJ and Cush? Hell no. At this point in time, Watt for Luck would be about as even a swap as you can get...aside from trading any of the top 3 qbs.
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I must say that Luck lived up to his namesake last year.

He was probably the most lucky QB I've seen in a given year.
Put the game tape on. In the first five games, there were at least ten of his passes that could have been interceptions; at least three were "sure" drops by a defender (and I'm being generous here since I don't want to count on my memory).
Lots of good and bad QB's have dropped INT's every year.

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Luck has a lot of athleticism and qualities, but if he was the Texans QB last year (and if people don't make excuse for their "idol"), he would have been ripped apart on this forum; I guarantee it.

Yes, I have watched every single game he played.
Luck had a lot of INT's last year and his COMP% wasn't anything stellar, but I think it would have been relatively few posters that would've done the "ripping" apart. He showed enough in his play last year to make most people agree that you can probably win a lot of NFL games with Andrew Luck as your QB (Just as the Colts did last year, and with almost nobody else on that team either, especially that O-line dear god).

Anybody claiming to speak with authority on what 32 NFL GM's and execs would do in a given "draft whatever player you want" scenario are full of ****. NFL GM's make dumb moves/mistakes/strokes of genius all of the time and trying to nail down what a GM is thinking at any time in the off season is daunting enough, just ask mock draft guru's.
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Nah.... the "new" hadn't wore off yet. We'd make excuses for him for at least two years.

Most fans are pretty "fair" with new players, especially the ones that get a lot of pre-nfl hype. Year one is just to "see" what we got. Year two, they want to see improvement. & that's where most Luck fans are, if they're honest.

He'll get about 10 games to show improvement before there will be much "noise" about not.
Having been to many other team's fan forums, I somewhat disagree with this. We have our fair share of homers and we all have "our" players that we like and defend, but we also have a pretty good number of guys that are pretty danged objective and will call it like they see it- good or bad. There would've been a fair number of pink soapers calling Luck out for his play last season. In my humble, unbiased(yeah right) opinion, Luck would have a harder time on this MB than anything the Dolt fans would ever give him.
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Nah.... the "new" hadn't wore off yet. We'd make excuses for him for at least two years.
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Is that a fact?
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Well *I* think its true.
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Kareem Jackson...... no hype. Most of us didn't even know who he was.


David Carr........ hype. The best QB prospect since blah, blah, blah...... the real deal.
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we really need to sweep the colts this year just to prove Luck will not have it easy in this divison or with this team
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we really need to sweep the colts this year just to prove Luck will not have it easy in this divison or with this team
It would be nice to sweep the Colts, but not a "need"


We need to win the division again, to prove it is still ours.

If we sweep the Colts & go 6-10........ what difference does it make?
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Would you trade JJ for Luck ? Of course you would, and in a heart beat and you'd also throw in some boot like Andre or Cushing or maybe both ?
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