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Old 03-23-2014   #21
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Very sad news. Loved watching Jim Kelly play. He was one tough hombre when he was playing, let's hope that helps him in this fight. Best wishes Jim!
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Very sad news. Loved watching Jim Kelly play. He was one tough hombre when he was playing, let's hope that helps him in this fight. Best wishes Jim!
During the Gamblers' era, Kelly's girlfriend was my receptionist. Met him on several occasions. Unbelievably good person........down to earth......not caught up in the fame.........or himself.
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During the Gamblers' era, Kelly's girlfriend was my receptionist. Met him on several occasions. Unbelievably good person........down to earth......not caught up in the fame.........or himself.
Yea I have heard many say that, and you can hear it when he did interviews. Is there are discussion as what caused the cancer? Was he a tobacco user after the NFL, or just runs in the family. Upper Jaw cancer seems like a rare thing, but then I do not really know. I hope he beats it!
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Yea I have heard many say that, and you can hear it when he did interviews. Is there are discussion as what caused the cancer? Was he a tobacco user after the NFL, or just runs in the family. Upper Jaw cancer seems like a rare thing, but then I do not really know. I hope he beats it!
Kelly was NOT a tobacco user and he was NOT a drinker. With a non-smoking and non-drinking history, the most likely source would be a history of oral sex somewhere in his past with someone infected with human papilloma virus [HPV] ala Michael Douglas (the latency period of this process......time of exposure to time of developing cancer usually runs ~30-40 years.......). To understand Kelly's cancer and its course, prognosis and relationship to HPV, you may want to review my previous posts (ranging from #1-#14) in this thread. Scarey...... but, just like HPV-to-female cervical cancer connection, today a very well-established pathologic HPV infection-to-cancer relationship.

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Jim Kelly's Cancer Recurrence Is "Aggressive" And Will Require Surgeryhttp://deadspin.com/jim-kellys-cance...ill-1550923394

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Bills Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly will undergo surgery on Thursday at New York's Lenox Hill Hospital for a recurrence of oral cancer that required removal of part of his jaw and teeth last summer. A family friend said Kelly is weak and "in bad shape."


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The Kelly family has since said that the cancer has spread and that it is aggressive. They are asking fans and all of Western New York for prayers as Jim continues his battle.
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[Family friend Dennis] DiPaolo says former Buffalo Bills quarterback is in a lot of pain, but he adds that isn't stopping Kelly from keeping his spirits up.
Last week, former teammates Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith, and Andre Reed visited Kelly in his home after the news of the recurrence was announced. He was later hospitalized at Erie County Medical Center in Buffalo where he was said to be in "tremendous" pain.
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Jim Kelly and his family are in New York City as the Hall of Fame quarterback is preparing to undergo surgery for his cancer recurrence.

Kelly is said to be weak and “in bad shape.” He’s been in and out of hospitals for the past 10 days, but News 4 has learned that Kelly is scheduled to have surgery at Lenox Hill Hospital in Manhattan on Thursday because doctors wanted to see him immediately.

Dennis DiPaolo, co-owner of Ilio DiPaolo’s restaurant and a close friend of the Kelly family, said, “He is the specialist. I believe he’s like one of the top five in the world to perform the surgery. Needless to say, the community all says, ‘You know what, he’s the main guy, go to him.” So the whole Western New York community from Roswell Park, to ECMC, all the people say, “Jim, whatever you need, we’re here for you.” And needless to say, the rehab’s going to be very difficult.”

On Sunday, Jill Kelly posted a photo of the family in the hospital watching the Sunday service at the Chapel at Crosspoint online. She said she was “overwhelmed and humbled to watch Pastor Jerry and our congregation family kneel in prayer for our family…to be prayed for by name. We were on our knees too and our nurse asked if she could join us in prayer…and she did.”

Kelly had part of his jaw and teeth removed in June 2013, when oral cancer was originally found. Earlier this month, doctors at ECMC reported Kelly has had a cancer recurrence. The Kelly family has since said that the cancer has spread and that it is aggressive. They are asking fans and all of Western New York for prayers as Jim continues his battle.

The news of Jim Kelly’s upcoming surgery comes days after friends said Kelly was at ECMC for treatment. DiPaolo says former Buffalo Bills quarterback is in a lot of pain, but he adds that isn’t stopping Kelly from keeping his spirits up.

“He’s like come on, don’t hang your heads. Like you walk in the room and he’s in a huddle and still commanding everyone and even if he’s trying to rest his eyes, he knows you’re there and he goes, ‘Thanks for coming you guys.’ He’s just a remarkable individual,” DiPaolo said.

Thurman Thomas, Bruce Smith and Andre Reed went to visit Jim Kelly on Friday at his home. The visit had him smiling and laughing, according to his daughter Erin’s Twitter page.

“The outpouring of love has been such an uplifting feeling for him that it’s really given him strength to go on and he’s really excited. He says, “Boy, we’re going to have a celebration when I’m done with this.” And hopefully this is the touchdown play to get him home,” DiPaolo said.
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Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly’s doctors have told him surgery is not the best option for his oral cancer.

Kelly, whose family had previously announced that his surgery was scheduled for Thursday, will instead have chemotherapy and radiation therapy. His wife, Jill Kelly, provided an update on Facebook.

“There’s been a lot that has been said so we thought it would be best to clarify,” Jill Kelly wrote. “At this point and time surgery is not the best option for Jim. Because of complexity and aggressive nature of this cancer and after more scans and tests, the plan has changed. At this point, Jim will not be having surgery. The cancer is in areas that surgery cannot successfully eradicate. Therefore, the medical specialists here in NYC along with our Buffalo team believe that chemotherapy and radiation are the best option.”
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Remembering that there was very significant time delay in the diagnosis and primary treatment of his cancer, combined with the fact the prognosis of this type of cancer was already far from satisfactory, and along with the fact that a more deforming but more thorough radical lymph node neck dissection surgery and/or other co-treatments (radiation/chemo) were not chosen to be performed at the same time, this recurrence is even less surprising. Unfortunately, this tells me what I had originally believed would be the case before "surgery" was surprisingly just recently announced as the treatment he would undergo for the recurrence. His recurrence/spread is now obviously beyond the reasonable scope of scalpel removal. The chemotherapy and radiation therapy must now be considered a desperation salvage approach in hopes of palliation and improved quality of life.
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Remembering that there was very significant time delay in the diagnosis and primary treatment of his cancer, combined with the fact the prognosis of this type of cancer was already far from satisfactory, and along with the fact that a more deforming but more thorough radical lymph node neck dissection surgery and/or other co-treatments (radiation/chemo) were not chosen to be performed at the same time, this recurrence is even less surprising. Unfortunately, this tells me what I had originally believed would be the case before "surgery" was surprisingly just recently announced as the treatment he would undergo for the recurrence. His recurrence/spread is now obviously beyond the reasonable scope of scalpel removal. The chemotherapy and radiation therapy must now be considered a desperation salvage approach in hopes of palliation and improved quality of life.
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Prayers for Jim Kelly and his family. I've always thought of him as one of the really good guys in the NFL and hate to hear this bad news. I sure hope that he hears all the well wishes, prayers, and thoughts for him.
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Well, you're just full of sunshine and rainbows, CnD!
I understand how you and many others may feel. I actually share your feelings. It's much more difficult in discouraging situations like this when you have to relate such honest information directly to patients and their families.......although you must. Despite the fact that you want to hold out some hope, you can never become the carrier of misguided sunshine and rainbows.
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I understand how you and many others may feel. I actually share your feelings. It's much more difficult in discouraging situations like this when you have to relate such honest information directly to patients and their families.......although you must. Despite the fact that you want to hold out some hope, you can never become the carrier of misguided sunshine and rainbows.
Heh, I know. I'm just teasing you a little. Always appreciate the insight and candor.
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Jim Kelly never has been accused of being delicate.

Kelly's health, however, is fragile enough that a fever delayed his cancer treatments until next week.

Five days after Kelly learned surgery wasn't a current option to treat the cancer spreading inside his head, today's scheduled start for chemotherapy was postponed.

Doctors decided to push back Kelly's treatments because the legendary Buffalo Bills quarterback's temperature was up, and he needed an antibiotic.

"He's had a couple setbacks," his brother, Dan Kelly, told me tonight. "It's always this or that. We have to make sure Jim doesn't get sick leading into this."

Dan Kelly said Jim is now "locked and loaded" for treatments to begin next Monday at Lenox Hill Hospital in Manhattan. Dan Kelly added the accelerated regimen of intense radiation and chemotherapy will last seven weeks.

"They have his pain pretty much under control," Dan Kelly said, "and that's been hurting all of us, just seeing him in so much pain.

"They have some of the best pain-management doctors here I've ever seen. Jim is comfortable now, and that's the most important thing."
When recurrence occurs in oral cancers which include bone, it is not unusual that necrotic (dead) tissue creates an infected draining wound. Since the tissue is not alive and thus by definition does not have blood supply to the area, natural antibodies cannot reach the infected tissue to fight the source of the infection........nor can antibiotics. So, the infection tends to spread throughout the body through surrounding blood supply that is still intact to the rest of the body...........causing fever. This systemic spread of bacteria must be controlled , as this overtly infected tissue if left unchecked will continue to deliver even more concentrated loads of bacteria to the rest of the body, very possibly leading to overwhelming infection, septic shock and death. Kelly doctors are trying to control the systemic effects of the bacteria now, in preparation of the anticipated chemotherapy and radiation therapy, because both of these therapies can be expected to severely depress the body's own natural immunologic protections which must be functioning effectively to even allow antibiotics to work effectively.........Not controlling the infection in addition to subsequently further severely compromising the immune system is a formula that would inevitably lead to overwhelming infection, septic shock and death.

You would normally want to surgically remove the infection source of nonviable bone and other tissues, but in this case, surgery would most likely further spread the infection and cancer when cut through, and very likely leading to a wound which would be unlikely to ever heal........making this a total non-option.

Not that he couldn't overcome these very difficult challenges, but Kelly's situation is not very promising.....much less so with this recent turn of events, since it delays his definitive cancer treatment for a cancer that would already afford a short-term survival.
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Here is a very in-depth article about Kelly, his canceer plight, his family, his faith........sad, but very heart-warming.

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I've been avoiding this thread like the plague. Sometimes you just don't want to see bad news. Jim Kelly was one of my hero's back in the day. Not only because of his exploits on the field - but even more for the role model he was off of it. This breaks my heart. Thoughts and prayers for Jim Kelly.

And if we can get real for a second and sorry in advance for the sex talk but this is important - Doc, you mentioned this has likely causation with oral sex with a female. I would venture to guess most of us have done that on multiple occasions. Not me of course, but I'm asking for a friend lol. What is the risk of getting this kind of cancer from performing oral sex on a female? Is it a very low thing or should "my friend" be worried.
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I've been avoiding this thread like the plague. Sometimes you just don't want to see bad news. Jim Kelly was one of my hero's back in the day. Not only because of his exploits on the field - but even more for the role model he was off of it. This breaks my heart. Thoughts and prayers for Jim Kelly.

And if we can get real for a second and sorry in advance for the sex talk but this is important - Doc, you mentioned this has likely causation with oral sex with a female. I would venture to guess most of us have done that on multiple occasions. Not me of course, but I'm asking for a friend lol. What is the risk of getting this kind of cancer from performing oral sex on a female? Is it a very low thing or should "my friend" be worried.
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Rather than pulling a complicated medical literature resource, I tried to find an article that would be readable and comprehensible to your friend. This should answer his questions.

Can oral sex give you cancer?


Add to the article........newly discovered esophageal cancer link, which also makes sense since the swallowing tube is an extension of the oral cavity. People with the HPV virus had a threefold increased risk of developing esophageal cancer than those not infected, according to a study led by researchers at the University of New South Wales in Australia.

Keep in mind, the reason that HPV-associated oral and esophageal cancers have notoriously had extremely poor prognosis is that you can't see the HPV virus. So, without special HPV testing of the remaining "normal" appearing tissues, you may believe that you've removed the grossly visible cancer, leaving behind only surrounding normal tissues. When in fact these normal looking tissues harbor the HPV virus which continues to infect and transform normal tissue to cancerous tissue........essentially accounting for such stubbornly common and virulent recurrences of these cancers.

Hope these answer your friend's questions.
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Default Re: Jim Kelly announces that he has cancer

Suzzane Somers beat Cancer and she didn't go the Chemotherapy route. I do believe there are many other alternative therapies that one should look into. I hate the word Chemotherapy.
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