Brooks to move to ILB

[SAMURAITEXAN]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

I don't know that Smith or Kubiak really have much of a say in the matter. They're buying the groceries but it's up to Wade (and Herring) to cook the dinner.

I'm not saying that Brooks is definitely going to move to ILB but I don't take what Smith and Kubiak said as absolute proof that he isn't.

I think you are right. It is Wade's call. Wade's decides how dinner should tastes like and Herring cooks in accordance with Wade's recipe.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

I don't know that Smith or Kubiak really have much of a say in the matter. They're buying the groceries but it's up to Wade (and Herring) to cook the dinner.

I'm not saying that Brooks is definitely going to move to ILB but I don't take what Smith and Kubiak said as absolute proof that he isn't.

I haven't seen anything from wade that says reed is going to ILB. And herring didn't even say that he was. What herring said was that he feels comfortable with Reed at ilb. Herring even says "it's not something I want to get nailed down to".

The latest info we have on the situation is kubiak and smith basically saying absolutely not. At least at this point in time they are saying they have no plans on moving him inside. Now, we can say wade has the final say and that may be true, but I'd find it hard to believe that the head coach and gm would be saying that reed is the starting olb if wade is saying Reed is the new ILB.

And kicking Brooks reed outside on passing downs if he were to go to ilb doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.

Texans took OLB's/edge players for a reason. Our pass rush outside of Watt and sometimes Smith was pathetic. Especially from the edges. I dont think they are going to wait all year to see if the two starters can find their mojo. They really can't afford to do that with the teams we'll be playing. I think they are going to rotate these guys until they find who's going to consistently put pressure on the qb from the edge.

[Blake]

Personally I want to keep Reed at OLB. Barwin is gone, Merc is still learning, Braman could get some snaps, and Sam and Trevardo are rookies.

[drs23]

Originally Posted by Rey

I haven't seen anything from wade that says reed is going to ILB. And herring didn't even say that he was. What herring said was that he feels comfortable with Reed at ilb. Herring even says "it's not something I want to get nailed down to".

That's exactly what he said and seemed pretty confident about it.

The latest info we have on the situation is kubiak and smith basically saying absolutely not. At least at this point in time they are saying they have no plans on moving him inside. Now, we can say wade has the final say and that may be true, but I'd find it hard to believe that the head coach and gm would be saying that reed is the starting olb if wade is saying Reed is the new ILB.

And kicking Brooks reed outside on passing downs if he were to go to ilb doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.

Texans took OLB's/edge players for a reason. Our pass rush outside of Watt and sometimes Smith was pathetic. Especially from the edges. I dont think they are going to wait all year to see if the two starters can find their mojo. They really can't afford to do that with the teams we'll be playing. I think they are going to rotate these guys until they find who's going to consistently put pressure on the qb from the edge.

Exactly. You could almost see the table move from Harris' boner when talking about Trevardo Williams' speed saying he's a little raw but has something that can't be taught:SPEED! He's that quick.

I can't wait till camp starts!

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

And kicking Brooks reed outside on passing downs if he were to go to ilb doesn't make a lot of sense to me either.

Texans took OLB's/edge players for a reason. Our pass rush outside of Watt and sometimes Smith was pathetic. Especially from the edges. I dont think they are going to wait all year to see if the two starters can find their mojo. They really can't afford to do that with the teams we'll be playing. I think they are going to rotate these guys until they find who's going to consistently put pressure on the qb from the edge.

Good points. Though I've mentioned Brooks rotating down on passing downs, you're right, it doesn't make sense.

But what you said here, about our pass rush, I agree 110%, Brooks was part of that. If we're not going to wait all season for our starting OLBs to find their mojo, then we're not going to wait two. Brooks (and Barwin) were fine against the run. Brooks was decent in pass coverage. Brooks wasn't worth a crap, imho, as a pass rusher.

He's a fine athlete & a second round pick, I think we need to put him somewhere he can be successful. He is not the pass rusher we need. Let's put him inside & see if he can make hay.



That's the way I see it anyway.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Good points. Though I've mentioned Brooks rotating down on passing downs, you're right, it doesn't make sense.

But what you said here, about our pass rush, I agree 110%, Brooks was part of that. If we're not going to wait all season for our starting OLBs to find their mojo, then we're not going to wait two. Brooks (and Barwin) were fine against the run. Brooks was decent in pass coverage. Brooks wasn't worth a crap, imho, as a pass rusher.

He's a fine athlete & a second round pick, I think we need to put him somewhere he can be successful. He is not the pass rusher we need. Let's put him inside & see if he can make hay.




That's the way I see it anyway.

I've actually warmed up to the idea of Brooks being an inside LB if it means getting someone that can rush the qb better out there on the edge. I actually dont mind reed at solb either because the other LB is the one that will get the most pass rush opportunities.

Herring himself said the two roles are different...which is something I think we mostly knew...

Personally I think they're still deciding what they want to do and will likely use campband pre season as part of that decision making process. I just want the best guys on the field doing what they do best.

[The Pencil Neck]

The whole passrush thing was why I thought bouncing Reed inside made so much sense.

They're going to try Montgomery out at the SAM because they think he's got the size and strength to take on the TEs. And they're going to put Trevardo at the Will so he can just speed rush off the edge to his little heart's content.

If Reed doesn't kick inside, then both of these guys are back-ups who will come in as part of the rotation. And that's fine. Effectively, you've got Montgomery backing up Reed and Williams backing up Mercilus. So All the guys will probably be fresher. So I'm fine if that's how we're going to do it.

But if Montgomery steps up and can handle the Sam role, then you can kick Reed inside and you basically just drafted 2 starters with 1 pick. Assuming, of course, that Reed CAN kick inside.

[Lucky]

Originally Posted by Rey

The latest info we have on the situation is kubiak and smith basically saying absolutely not. At least at this point in time they are saying they have no plans on moving him inside. Now, we can say wade has the final say and that may be true, but I'd find it hard to believe that the head coach and gm would be saying that reed is the starting olb if wade is saying Reed is the new ILB.

It makes sense if they are still on the lookout for LBs on the market, post June 1st cuts. They don't want to tip their hand. If a suitable ILB becomes available, Reed probably does stay inside. If an OLB is out there, Reed could move inside. I think that's what they were referring to with options. But, something has to be done at ILB.

Cushing -coming off ACL surgery
Dobbins - career backup who ended 2012 on IR
Sharpton - ended 2 of his 3 seasons on IR
Cameron Collins - practice squader
Mike Mohamed - street free agent
Assorted UDFAs

That's it. That's not a LB corps ready to enter the 2013 season. Not for a contender. As far as I'm concerned, the Texans tipped their hand by not selecting an ILB (I thought they needed 2) in the draft. So Smith and Kubiak can be coy all they want. The facts are that everything points to Brooks Reed kicking inside.

[76Texan]

History showed that Wade had moved guys from OLB to ILB and vice versa.

For me, I thought that Cushing's skill set can afford him to play both;
I feel the same way about Reed.
A guy like Sio Moore, who I coveted in the draft, played both inside and outside in college, in the same year, effectively.
There is no reason a pro can't do it.
Whatshisname who played under Wade, everywhere on the line, and was a HOF.

It's just a matter how Wade and the coaches want to go about it.

[HOU-TEX]

Sounds like he worked at ILB. All depends on the rookies, I reckon

Nick Scurfield ‏@NickScurfield 13m
Brooks Reed practiced at ILB today. #Texans are taking a look at Sam Montgomery, Trevardo Williams and Bryan Braman at OLB

Lost some weight too

PDS ‏@PatDStat 10m
Brooks Reed is another player who looks like he shed some weight. 6-3, 256. Changed into a more lean version. #Texans

[Mr teX]

I put this Reed to ILB thing out last year....i think its a good look to...while he wasn't great at OLB i think people are overstating how bad he was when all things are taken into consideration (injuries, 2nd year guy in new position etc..)

I think keeping him on the field in some capacity and seeing what these other kids can bring to the table has the potential to make us that much more explosive and versatile.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Mr teX

I put this Reed to ILB thing out last year....i think its a good look to...while he wasn't great at OLB i think people are overstating how bad he was when all things are taken into consideration (injuries, 2nd year guy in new position etc..)

I think keeping him on the field in some capacity and seeing what these other kids can bring to the table has the potential to make us that much more explosive and versatile.

I think Brooks can be a playmaker for us. Just not on the edges. I'd feel better with him taking inside snaps too, if we lose Cush for a game or two.

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Rey

I haven't seen anything from wade that says reed is going to ILB. And herring didn't even say that he was. What herring said was that he feels comfortable with Reed at ilb. Herring even says "it's not something I want to get nailed down to".

The latest info we have on the situation is kubiak and smith basically saying absolutely not.

OTAs and he's taking reps at ILB. Williams and Montgomery are taking reps at OLB with the first and second teams.

Granted, this might just be to get Reed up-to-speed in case of emergency later but still...

[wolf123]

I think he's a much better fit at ILB then on the edge. He reminds me of Brian cushing when we were first switching to a 3-4. Cushing wouldn't of look great at OLB either.

[HOU-TEX]

Also appears Sharpton put in a full load. We'll see how long this lasts

PDS ‏@PatDStat 2h
Darryl Sharpton was a full go today at OTAs. Moved well without any issues. #Texans

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by wolf123

I think he's a much better fit at ILB then on the edge. He reminds me of Brian cushing when we were first switching to a 3-4. Cushing wouldn't of look great at OLB either.

Cushing was making plays several times a game as a 4-3 SAM. The way our SAM plays outside of Watt as the 5-Tech, it shouldn't be very different.

Reed was alright, but he's done nothing to remind me of Brian Cushing.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Cushing was making plays several times a game as a 4-3 SAM. The way our SAM plays outside of Watt as the 5-Tech, it shouldn't be very different.

Reed was alright, but he's done nothing to remind me of Brian Cushing.

Good news is he doesn't have to be Cushing or even near him to be successful. He (or anyone) has only to be better than last year.

[drs23]

Originally Posted by badboy

Good news is he doesn't have to be Cushing or even near him to be successful. He (or anyone) has only to be better than last year.

I'll go on record as saying he will be better than ANYONE from last season. I think Brooks will put forth the on field/classroom effort and study to exceed at the ILB position.

Is it September yet??