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Old 09-10-2008   #1
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From Floyd Resse former Tacks GM on Kuharskys Blog


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Reese's take: "That's a work in progress. They drafted a couple kids, they've re-signed right tackle Eric Winston and he's a cornerstone. So I think for the first time they are starting to get people in place, similar to what Tennessee has done; said, 'OK we've got these two tackles, we've signed them, we plan on them being here for the next seven or eight years, let's go on.' And I think they are on the verge of getting to that point. I think what happens is, it's a state of mind. Because they haven't run the ball really well for so long, they have to develop that. Now Gibbs will bring that along, but that's not one of those things you get done in six weeks of camp. They've got to go out and have some success, they've got to understand how to do it and they've got to get to a point where they can get ahead in games and they really can run the ball, really beat somebody into submission. Once you do that a couple times you realize, 'Hey, this is a pretty neat thing, let's continue to do it.'"
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Time time time.... I´m OK with it, but I doubt that Houston is
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Time time time.... I´m OK with it, but I doubt that Houston is
It's obvious that Alex Gibbs will be a colossal failure because the Texans failed to run over pittsburgh.
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It's obvious that Alex Gibbs will be a colossal failure because the Texans failed to run over pittsburgh.
The sky is falling!!!
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As happy as I am that someone has encouraging things to say about our line, I'm almost as unhappy that it came from that gas-bag.


I can't stand Floyd Reese.
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If the sky is falling, I , as a fan, am here to catch it.
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The sky is falling!!!
Well, we should be used to it by now. Let's just shove it back up there.
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The sky is falling!!!
That's not sky. That's just dirt that is falling from the sides of the hole that we've been stuck in for 6 seasons.

We'll be alright. We just have to get our groove on this week against the Ravens.
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How come the dirt stinks?
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Default Re: Encouraging comment on the O line

Thanks for sharing the article Stan.

Its good to see that other well run FO are giving ours some credit.

Its also nice to see that people are being positive about the direction of our line after it being a punchline for so long.
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Default Re: Encouraging comment on the O line

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I couldn't agree more. All of the "sky-is-falling" fans that have berated this board since Sunday have disgusted me more than the actual game did (and that is a LOT). Geez, you would think you were reading the Cowgirl's MB or something.

The bottom line is, anyone who thought our run game would miraculously produce starting in week 1 does not understand football or they were just dreaming. It does take time for an OL to gel, especially when they are all young players learning a new system. All along I've expected the run game to emerge by week 5 or 6. Anything before that is a bonus.
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A thought about the ZBS .... The Texans have run it on one form or another since the Capers era and it just hasnt worked very well . Hell Denver's ZBS hasnt looked the same since Kubiak left. Atlanta has made it look good of late but a lot of that was Vick's numbers inflating the running games totals (last year w/o Vick they were 26th in the NFL)

I look at running teams and think Steelers , Ravens and Cowpatties (did I mention I hate the Cowpies?). Toss in the Oilers and Redskins of years gone by .... What did all these teams have in common ? Big , Overpowering and Nasty O-lines. Line up and knock the snot outa the guy across from you O-lines that could wear you down from begining to end. Kinda like the Steelers defense did to the Texans O-line this past Sunday ..... Rather than watch the Texans try to out finesse teams I wish they would just line up and knock the $h!7 outa them.

Yeah I know they dont have the personel .... Its just a thought.
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That is all well and good but that is no mystifing revalation . What is or was bad is that Kubiak failed to game plan options for the offense to go to in event of a meltdown .
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I couldn't agree more. All of the "sky-is-falling" fans that have berated this board since Sunday have disgusted me more than the actual game did (and that is a LOT). Geez, you would think you were reading the Cowgirl's MB or something.

The bottom line is, anyone who thought our run game would miraculously produce starting in week 1 does not understand football or they were just dreaming. It does take time for an OL to gel, especially when they are all young players learning a new system. All along I've expected the run game to emerge by week 5 or 6. Anything before that is a bonus.
My problem wasn't and still isn't the offense. I went into the season full well this season we're going full blown ZBS but good news is we got the best guy in the business to teach it. We've got Winston locked down long term and Brown has handled himself surprisingly well. Just have to get the interior of the line to catch up. Did i think going up against last year's #1 Defense to kick off the season would help? Not really. But then Again.... my gripe isn't the offense.

It's the other side of the ball that bothers me.... A lot.
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The sky is falling!!!
No, that would be Ike.

Seriously, O-lines take time to build. Munchak, Matthews, were drafted in 82 and 83, respectively. Dean Steinkuhler (and Moon) came along in 84. Rozier and Childress came in 85. Highsmith in 86. And with all that accumulated talent we still didn't make the playoffs until 87.

So at the risk of indirectly admitting Polo has a valid point () we are still a ways off from having that much talent on this roster.
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