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Old 08-23-2008   #21
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A great big ol' fat boy right in the middle of the line. Shut down the other teams guards and center. Albert Hainsworth (sp) comes to mind. Our DT are too small.
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Mario made some big plays, but where ae the Sacks!!!!!!!!
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We just need a few live chickens or frogs so the guys can learn to tackle!
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I'd rather see young players like Cochran, Adibi, and Molden out there, instead of vets who just don't have it. I'm tired of waiting for guys like Weaver to live up to their contract. I don't care if the young guys make mistakes. As long as they do it running.

Smith has a couple of games to get this together. I've seen coordinators replaced during the season. Right here in Houston.
Id like to see Okam mixed in this cocktail. We need some size inside....TJ and Okoye are getting manhandled and pushed around. They are good in pursuit and running to the ball but don't look all that great when run at...and they also struggle at keeping the guards off of DeMeco.
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Id like to see Okam mixed in this cocktail. We need some size inside....TJ and Okoye are getting manhandled and pushed around. They are good in pursuit and running to the ball but don't look all that great when run at...and they also struggle at keeping the guards off of DeMeco.
I agree... also, I think Dejuan Robinson has to make the team. He's actually getting penetration which is something we're not getting anywhere else... My DL keepers now:

Mario
Cochran
Kalu
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TJ
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Colvin (maybe he's just doggin' it in the pre-season?)
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Default Re: What is the Defense Missing?

My analysis of the defense.

Overall:

The Texans are missing a lot of players in the primes of their careers because we drafted defense so poorly for so long and gave away draft picks with little in return. This means that a lot of our defensive players who are promising are too young. And there are not that many very talented older accomplished mentors to help them along. We have a lot of really young players, a few ancient players, and few in the middle.

Defensive Line. As Kubiak mentioned at the end of last season, the defensive line is imbalanced. Part of that is because of the transitioning from the 3-4 and dealing with those personnel.

DE: It's Mario on one side and no good options on the other side.
DT: Amobi and TJ play the same position and when they are on the field together they are small. Okam is young but more suitable to play next to Amobi/TJ.

Linebackers. It's DeMeco and a bunch of make-dos and young guys.

Safeties. It has been the weakness of the team since the beginning. We've never seen great safety play. Call it the Matt Stevens curse, if you will.

CBs. They are the most inexperienced group the Texans have ever fielded. That means it would take a miracle for them to be really really good even if they will be some day. I still have a hard time seeing Robinson shaking off rust and coming back full speed this season.

Depth. Lots of players doesn't mean lots of depth. In sum, Richard Justice was being disingenous or perhaps just plain ill-informed when he said,"For the first time, the Texans enter a season without a glaring weakness." I read that and went wha?

The freaking defense has been near the bottom of the league in just about every statistical category for the last three seasons. To move from bottom to even average meant that they needed some big improvement in play and coaching. What were the great acquisitions that meant that the defense was going to be all better?
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Bigger, tougher, meaner, faster.
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Taylor Mays

Can't help it, I'm excited about my Trojans this year.

Hope the Texans keep up.
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Old 08-23-2008   #31
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What is the Defense Missing? The ability to defend. I am officially concerned.
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Okam needs to start. We need a big fatass in the middle and TJ is officially a bust.

Weaver is terrible and can't rush the pass or stop the run. Start someone else.

Zach Diles... starting?
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Taylor Mays

Can't help it, I'm excited about my Trojans this year.

Hope the Texans keep up.
A 6'4" 225lb Safety with incredible range that can hit like a mac truck? Wow, I think I'll put one of those on my Texans Christmas List.

As far as what the defense needs, a better DC plain and simple. Most of us want to blame the DBs, but it all starts with the poor scheming of Richard Smith. The Giants won the Super Bowl last year and none of us can name five of their DBs off the top of our head. Hell, the Titans play in our division and I can't name the starters in their secondary! But they have really good defenses because they have really good DC. Jerry Gray, Frank Bush, anybody besides Richard Smith right now. Pull the trigger KubesPLEASE GET RID OF RICHARD SMITH!!!
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Old 08-23-2008   #34
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Just because you can't name the players doesn't mean they aren't good...
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A. the cowgirls O line is very good

B. its preseason, im sure they were told not to strain themselves and remember its practice, im not worried about our D line, or our Lbs, but i am on the fence about or DBs....
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Just because you can't name the players doesn't mean they aren't good...
So am I to believe that the Giants and Titans have players in their secondaries that are that much better than the ones on the Texans? Are Aaron Ross and Courtland Finnegan that much better than Fred Bennett? Are whoever starts at safety for these teams that much better than Demps and Brown? I really don't know. One thing I do know for sure-These teams have good DCs, the Texans don't, period.
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Old 08-23-2008   #39
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Folks are confused around here...

"The players suck...Our entire secondary is garbage and we only have one LB and one D-lineman that do anything"

"Fire the D-coordinator"



Why? Because he can't make guys who aren't worth a damn shut down one of the best and most talented offenses in the leauge ?

Puhhhlease....
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So am I to believe that the Giants and Titans have players in their secondaries that are that much better than the ones on the Texans? Are Aaron Ross and Courtland Finnegan that much better than Fred Bennett? Are whoever starts at safety for these teams that much better than Demps and Brown? I really don't know. One thing I do know for sure-These teams have good DCs, the Texans don't, period.
I'm not sure what you're talking about.

I'd venture to say that most NFL fans have no idea who our recievers are outside of Andre Johnson....I guess they all must suck too...And sometimes lunch pail, blue collar, play hard all the time guys just don't get the recognition...

There are a lot of obscure players around the NFL that contribute simply because the team knows how to draft/sign players that fit what they do..

And yes...I'd say Aaron Ross and Courtland Finnegan are better than Bennett..Aaron Ross is actually pretty damn good IMHO....

But besides all that...Look at the Titans and Giants Defense overall...look at their Linebackers and D-lines....

I'm pretty sure Richard Smith could do more with those defenses simply because of personnel.
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