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Old 07-31-2008   #41
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Aw Jesus H Christ folks, so what if we signed someone else's cast off. Big deal. He's just another in a long list of hopefulls. We don't have much other than a slowed down Green in our backfield, Bell is no better or worse than a lot of the others.

We don't have a "go to" back yet, and until we do (which will probably be in next years draft) we gotta live on left overs.

I wish Bell all the luck in the world, and hopefully he doesn't get himself injured his first day of practice. LOL
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So much anger!

Nobody thinks this guy's going to set the world on fire - or even make the team! Nobody thinks he's Walter Payton, or even Terrell Davis. He's a guy who's coming in to get reps at RB so that the other RBs don't get overworked... and so that Chris Brown can watch another RB take his reps.

It's just for more competition. That's a good thing. I don't think anyone thinks we just signed a 1000 yard rusher. Sheesh!
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If he wasn't the diamond in Denver, what on earth makes you think he could come and be one over here with Salaam and a rookie at tackle? Their are better RB's that the Texans could be going after right now than Mike Bell I can assure you.

Sorry but signing him didn't really help the team. It just added another so so RB to the roster that will blend in with the bunch we already have.
The chances of him being the next Priest Holmes is pretty much astronomical, but Holmes had far more chances to prove himself in Baltimore than Bell did in Denver.

You are probably right about Bell not being a difference maker (or even a roster-maker) with the Texans, but your logic is just plain wrong.

And for the second time, who are the other RB's out there (and make sure they haven't been given a previous opportunity and not made the most of it).
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Right now, I would be all for going after Andre Hall from the Broncos. Every time he touched the field last year he played well. He showed HR potential and made some big plays. He didn't get that many opportunities last year because the Broncos has Young, Bell, and Henry. When he did, he really played well though. I think the Texans could probably get him for a really late pick or something, and he does have the potential to be a starter here. He also knows the system already, and watching him run he looked way better than Bell ever has.

I also wouldn't going after Canton Kieth from the Colts. He played really well as a backup last year and when Addai went down, their running game didn't miss a beat with Kieth starting. The Colts got Rhodes back, so I could see them letting go of Kieth especially after he got arrested a few months back.

Those are two backups that I think have a lot more potential than Mike Bell.
I am good with the signing, it's another camp body at this point and no one else is claiming otherwise. Let's see how it pans out between now and the 53 man roster.

And no way we need to trade away draft picks, not with the way Rick Smith put those picks to use.
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I've been wanting the Texans to go after these two for a while now Vinny. I'm not saying it was an awful signing. I'm saying that this isn't going to help much. All we did was sign another average back that is probably about as good as Walker.
Possibly but they may not like what they have seen in Brown and they may think that Bell gives them a viable alternative if he can't keep it together. Walker has done less than Bell has in the league so far, and on a team that had no real talent at the RB position when Green and Taylor went down last year....fwiw
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Aw Jesus H Christ folks, so what if we signed someone else's cast off. Big deal. He's just another in a long list of hopefulls. We don't have much other than a slowed down Green in our backfield, Bell is no better or worse than a lot of the others.

We don't have a "go to" back yet, and until we do (which will probably be in next years draft) we gotta live on left overs.

I wish Bell all the luck in the world, and hopefully he doesn't get himself injured his first day of practice. LOL
On the contrary, Thorn. Green has been looking every bit as fast as he was in the past. IMO, he's making his case for the starting RB position.

Now, having said that, we need to knock on every piece of wood in sight so he stays healthy.
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Worst case we cut somebody we were going to cut anyways, Bell proves be just another RB during camp that helps take up reps and gives other RB's that will make the team more rest (less likely to injure). Let the defense beat up on him, and then he gets released, not making the team.

If anything, we're short 1 RB in practice and he just replaces for practice. If he makes the team because he's better than another RB (Brown?) then that's only good. He knows the system, the plays, and the drills. I think it's a good thing, whether he makes the team or not.
That is why he is being brought in, more to keep the others fresh, then to push anyone. But who knows maybe lighting strikes...
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Right now, I would be all for going after Andre Hall from the Broncos. Every time he touched the field last year he played well. He showed HR potential and made some big plays. He didn't get that many opportunities last year because the Broncos has Young, Bell, and Henry. When he did, he really played well though. I think the Texans could probably get him for a really late pick or something, and he does have the potential to be a starter here. He also knows the system already, and watching him run he looked way better than Bell ever has.

I also wouldn't going after Canton Kieth from the Colts. He played really well as a backup last year and when Addai went down, their running game didn't miss a beat with Kieth starting. The Colts got Rhodes back, so I could see them letting go of Kieth especially after he got arrested a few months back.

Those are two backups that I think have a lot more potential than Mike Bell.
Mike Bell is free. Neither of those two are. After his rookie year and before his injury Mike Bell looked like a potential starter also, with a much bigger body of work than Hall.

Bell knows the system and I wouldnt be suprised if he was at practice tonight. We needed bodies at RB. He can come in right away and give good reps. Where other RB's will have a wait time or more catching up to do in the sytem. Every Rep in camp is important.
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On the contrary, Thorn. Green has been looking every bit as fast as he was in the past. IMO, he's making his case for the starting RB position.

Now, having said that, we need to knock on every piece of wood in sight so he stays healthy.

In that case, I shall go knocking on every tree I can find!!!

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On the contrary, Thorn. Green has been looking every bit as fast as he was in the past. IMO, he's making his case for the starting RB position.

Now, having said that, we need to knock on every piece of wood in sight so he stays healthy.
That was my first thought when i heard Green is doing well in TC. Sounds eerily like last year.
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So much anger!

Nobody thinks this guy's going to set the world on fire - or even make the team! Nobody thinks he's Walter Payton, or even Terrell Davis. He's a guy who's coming in to get reps at RB so that the other RBs don't get overworked... and so that Chris Brown can watch another RB take his reps.

It's just for more competition. That's a good thing. I don't think anyone thinks we just signed a 1000 yard rusher. Sheesh!
That is the point most of us were or are trying to make it. Some of us who have mentioned guys who were cast offs and showed something are looking for a positive instead of being 'Debbie Downer'. Everyone seems to believe the team will keep 4 backs and at least one FB maybe 2. So the more backs to see who is the best fit the better at this point in time.

As far as trading for someone elses backup with a late round pick; I am sure a lot of that was discussed prior and during this past years draft. It did not happen then I seriously doubt it will happen now with teams going into training camp because of the unknown injury that may or may not happen. That is almost like "Mr. Ridiculous Trade Proposal Guy" in baseball or on madden.
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Andre Davis' been working out for us too.. go figure
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That was my first thought when i heard Green is doing well in TC. Sounds eerily like last year.
Yeah, I know, but honestly I was quite surprised at the burst he was showing after the cut at the LOS.

If Ahman stays healthy (big if), the starting role is his to lose.
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Right now, I would be all for going after Andre Hall from the Broncos. Every time he touched the field last year he played well. He showed HR potential and made some big plays. He didn't get that many opportunities last year because the Broncos has Young, Bell, and Henry. When he did, he really played well though. I think the Texans could probably get him for a really late pick or something, and he does have the potential to be a starter here. He also knows the system already, and watching him run he looked way better than Bell ever has.

I also wouldn't going after Canton Kieth from the Colts. He played really well as a backup last year and when Addai went down, their running game didn't miss a beat with Kieth starting. The Colts got Rhodes back, so I could see them letting go of Kieth especially after he got arrested a few months back.

Those are two backups that I think have a lot more potential than Mike Bell.
I am going to mimic what others have said and say that teams don't just trade away role players on their team at this point in the year.

You can't really bash a signing by saying we should have traded for someone's backup running back. As if this is Madden and all you need to do is drag and click.
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and where did we get Kevin Walter from again....?
Vonta Leach can contribute to this team? Don't be silly, he went undrafted, and GB didn't want him! He has no potential....
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Mike Bell was on his way to Denver just a few months after Gary Kubiak, who gained a reputation for being able to lead any running back to 1,000 yards, left to become the head coach of the Texans in 2006. In 2008, they’ll actually share an employer.

The Texans have signed the former undrafted free agent to a contract, the terms of which aren’t yet disclosed.

Bell’s a one-cut runner familiar with the zone-blocking scheme the Texans will run this year. He had a productive rookie season, rushing for eight touchdowns and 677 yards on 4.3 yards per carry. But in 2007 he became a victim of Mike Shanahan’s revolving door at tailback and managed only three yards on six carries. The Broncos released him after he couldn’t convert to fullback.

The signing is a response on the Texans’ part to Chris Brown’s back problems. The oft-injured Brown has missed four straight days of practice and isn’t expected back soon. Despite the presence of six backs on the Texans’ roster, there is a vacuum of power where carries can be had, but Bell will be competing with Brown (eventually), Ahman Green, Steve Slaton, Chris Taylor, and Darius Walker for them.


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That sentence I bolded really jumped out at me. Not so much the missed practices, rather the allusion to him being out for a while.
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Right now, I would be all for going after Andre Hall from the Broncos. Every time he touched the field last year he played well. He showed HR potential and made some big plays. He didn't get that many opportunities last year because the Broncos has Young, Bell, and Henry. When he did, he really played well though. I think the Texans could probably get him for a really late pick or something, and he does have the potential to be a starter here. He also knows the system already, and watching him run he looked way better than Bell ever has.

I also wouldn't going after Canton Kieth from the Colts. He played really well as a backup last year and when Addai went down, their running game didn't miss a beat with Kieth starting. The Colts got Rhodes back, so I could see them letting go of Kieth especially after he got arrested a few months back.

Those are two backups that I think have a lot more potential than Mike Bell.

Problem number one. Hall is still a Bronco. Enough people have replied to this that I don't need to cover it.

Problem two...here is Hall's bio from the Bronco website.

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Dude must not have any potential. He was cut by Tampa and Chicago before Denver signed him.
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Right now, I would be all for going after Andre Hall from the Broncos. Every time he touched the field last year he played well. He showed HR potential and made some big plays. He didn't get that many opportunities last year because the Broncos has Young, Bell, and Henry. When he did, he really played well though. I think the Texans could probably get him for a really late pick or something, and he does have the potential to be a starter here. He also knows the system already, and watching him run he looked way better than Bell ever has.

I also wouldn't going after Canton Kieth from the Colts. He played really well as a backup last year and when Addai went down, their running game didn't miss a beat with Kieth starting. The Colts got Rhodes back, so I could see them letting go of Kieth especially after he got arrested a few months back.

Those are two backups that I think have a lot more potential than Mike Bell.
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