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Old 07-27-2008   #41
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In the Gibbs system, the FB is almost like a 6th OL, whose primary function is forging the running lane for the RB or pass protecting. The pass catching is secondary. Vonta Leach, as would be expected, is stronger than any of our RB, and is expected to dish out punishment. As such he will be sustaining constant repetitive trauma (much more than the average RB) and must be extremely DURABLE. Does this define Chris Taylor?..........or any other RB on the roster???? I don't believe so.
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In the Gibbs system, the FB is almost like a 6th OL, whose primary function is forging the running lane for the RB or pass protecting. The pass catching is secondary. Vonta Leach, as would be expected, is stronger than any of our RB, and is expected to dish out punishment. As such he will be sustaining constant repetitive trauma (much more than the average RB) and must be extremely DURABLE. Does this define Chris Taylor?..........or any other RB on the roster???? I don't believe so.
This is a misnomer as he in fact does not run in the same lane as the running back but instead goes through the line to block a linebacker . If he did run the ball instead in short yardage situations he would in fact be Sustaining some trauma but since he is only a blocker he does not . Mostly he is just not paid much attention by defenses except for the linebacker that has to avoid him .
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I just want him to block the LB and keep him out of the back field and make the catch if he gets called on.
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This is a misnomer as he in fact does not run in the same lane as the running back but instead goes through the line to block a linebacker . If he did run the ball instead in short yardage situations he would in fact be Sustaining some trauma but since he is only a blocker he does not . Mostly he is just not paid much attention by defenses except for the linebacker that has to avoid him .
ONLY a blocker?..........that's where you sustain the real trauma.........1st line of head-on collision(s). Many teams have gone to the pseudo hybrid FB, but if you look at the top RBs, you'll find that big solid "plow" FB paving the way.

And those collisions being with a lowly LB? Keep in mind that Taylor weighs 220 pounds.............now, I'd direct your attention as a comparison to the size of our own LBs.

BTW, West Virginia's Owen Schmitt was the bruiser at 6’3 and 248 pounds that paved the way for three consecutive 1,000 yard seasons for Steve Slaton.
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ONLY a blocker?..........that's where you sustain the real trauma.........1st line of head-on collision(s). Many teams have gone to the pseudo hybrid FB, but if you look at the top RBs, you'll find that big solid "plow" FB paving the way.

And those collisions being with a lowly LB? Keep in mind that Taylor weighs 220 pounds.............now, I'd direct your attention as a comparison to the size of our own LBs.

BTW, West Virginia's Owen Schmitt was the bruiser at 6’3 and 248 pounds that paved the way for three consecutive 1,000 yard seasons for Steve Slaton.
Our linebackers are 220 to 260 lbs and they will not be sitting there to be hit . Owen Schmitt plowed nothing but ran for his own yardage . If Vonta ran half as much as schmitt we would not be having this discussion .
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In the Gibbs system, the FB is almost like a 6th OL, whose primary function is forging the running lane for the RB or pass protecting. The pass catching is secondary. Vonta Leach, as would be expected, is stronger than any of our RB, and is expected to dish out punishment. As such he will be sustaining constant repetitive trauma (much more than the average RB) and must be extremely DURABLE. Does this define Chris Taylor?..........or any other RB on the roster???? I don't believe so.
How is that different from a FB in the power blocking scheme? Seems to me the difference is that the FB in the ZBS has no idea where the RB behind him is going to decide to go, whereas the FB in the PBS (PBS, ha-ha) is generally (but maybe not always) running right through the lane where the RB is headed. I sometimes wonder why a FB is even used in the ZBS, although Leach seems to be awefully good at it. Generally, it seems that an extra TE would be more appropriate for the ZBS.
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Nevermind my last post. I was just glancing over the posts and didn't realize you'd already pretty much conceded that and moved on to the medical stuff.
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How is that different from a FB in the power blocking scheme? Seems to me the difference is that the FB in the ZBS has no idea where the RB behind him is going to decide to go, whereas the FB in the PBS (PBS, ha-ha) is generally (but maybe not always) running right through the lane where the RB is headed. I sometimes wonder why a FB is even used in the ZBS, although Leach seems to be awefully good at it. Generally, it seems that an extra TE would be more appropriate for the ZBS.
I'm no expert, but as opposed to the FB in a power scheme taking on the MLB head on, the FB in a ZBS is more often responsible for cutting off backside pursuit, taking on the OLB at an angle. The collisions for a FB in the ZBS are thus less violent and allow them to be smaller and more athletic. Denver with Gibbs had Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, and Cecil Sapp, all at 230 or less. At one point or another, all of them were the preferred starting FB and a backup TB. They also used an H-back who had FB/TE responsibilities. Doing a little more research, they did carry a bigger FB, usually around the 240 range, but was typically the backup. Extrapolating, Cook and Taylor actually fit more the profile of the type of FB/RB previously preferred by Gibbs than Leach.
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Denver with Gibbs had Mike Anderson, Reuben Droughns, and Cecil Sapp, all at 230 or less. At one point or another, all of them were the preferred starting FB and a backup TB.
The same 6th round pick, 1,500 yard, 15 TD Offensive Rookie of the Year Mike Anderson!!? Come on Gibbs... for old times sake- do it again in Houston!
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The same 6th round pick, 1,500 yard, 15 TD Offensive Rookie of the Year Mike Anderson!!? Come on Gibbs... for old times sake- do it again in Houston!
Anderson had the reputation from the gitgo as a power runner. I don't think that we can make that jump to Taylor. After Anderson's 1st year, he certainly had his share of injuries and prolonged down time. If Gibbs can get Taylor to Anderson's strength of play, I'll certainly embrace it.
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It's a shame what happened to Taylor today. I don't think it'll effect our record but it sucks to see someone go down like that
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What are you talking about?
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I don't see anything in the Chronicle about him other than the usual BS.

So, what's up with this stuff about Taylor?
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I don't see anything in the Chronicle about him other than the usual BS.

So, what's up with this stuff about Taylor?
Nothing. Eight Gov must be having a flashback to last season.

From what I've seen, Taylor has been impressive so far.

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