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Old 07-09-2008   #41
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At least we know white kids aren't being recruited at RB, especially by 'big schools'...
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No after 60 yards I except to see him save his body when the coaches told him specifically to avoid Smith in a one on one situation. He tired to muscle Smith on the side lines and it cost the team. Like I posted if you go off the reservation, better make the play. Remind me again Lucky How many more 74 yard returns did he have after that one ? How many explosive plays over twelve yards for the rest of the season ? He was a ghost after that play. He was hurt and the coaches were protecting that shoulder.
I know you are correct but I think many if not most rookies in exact same scenario would try to muscle past the tackler and get 6. I hated that JJ got hurt but the kid has heart. Hopefully, next time his brain will kick in.
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This guy is a solid WR.
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People may not know the answer to this, however I was intrigued to know what Kevin Walter's 40 time was? Anyone know?
Do not know for sure. Probably around 4.6 at the combine, but plays 4.5. And the way he turns and runs straight upfield for extra yards makes him more like 4.4.
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I would say Walter is fast for his size, but certainly not a burner. Where he excells is in his precision routes. He reads the defense on the move very well too. I saw him 2 or 3 times last year completely lose his cover guy. I expect big things from Walter this year.
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As it stands, Jones could struggle to be more than the club's No. 4 receiver behind starters Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter and highly paid No. 3 receiver André Davis. A source close to the club says Jones hasn't matured quite as quickly as the team had hoped. That said, Jones has flashed impressive talent in his brief NFL career, and he could develop into a game-breaker on special teams in the interim as his all-around game develops.

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Thanks for avoiding my post threetoedpete.
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Thanks for avoiding my post threetoedpete.
I remember the quote....if the quote is no longer up that's not on me . apparently, hard head, someone with in the organization is quoting it too. Kubiak
said it not me.
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As it stands, Jones could struggle to be more than the club's No. 4 receiver behind starters Andre Johnson and Kevin Walter and highly paid No. 3 receiver André Davis. A source close to the club says Jones hasn't matured quite as quickly as the team had hoped. That said, Jones has flashed impressive talent in his brief NFL career, and he could develop into a game-breaker on special teams in the interim as his all-around game develops.
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW...wwhi071808.htm
Right now Jones is closer to Dante Hall (excellent return man but not a very good wr) than Derrick Mason (late round punt returner type that went on to become a very credible wr)....but he is still super early in his career.
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I remember the quote....if the quote is no longer up that's not on me . apparently, hard head, someone with in the organization is quoting it too. Kubiak
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Of course. It's easy to just spout off with stuff and then say "you go find it". Just saying.

But this isn't the time for petty arguments.

Jones is basically a glorified punt returner who hasn't broken one all the way yet. I think his receiving skills are probably going to improve since he's so young.
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Right now Jones is closer to Dante Hall (excellent return man but not a very good wr) than Derrick Mason (late round punt returner type that went on to become a very credible wr)....but he is still super early in his career.
Jones should not be mentioned in the same sentance as Dante Hall. Hall is proven over many seasons. Jones did well in the pre-season, and thats it.
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Jones should not be mentioned in the same sentance as Dante Hall.
I think what he's saying is that Jacoby has shown more as a returner than a WR at this point. Vinny probably made a better comparison a year ago, with Jones to former Niner wideout/return man John Taylor.

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I've been trying to think of a tall punt returner/WR2 in recent time and perhaps John Taylor of the 49ers is someone who Jacoby Jones may be comparable to as far as upside. Taylor was 6'1" out of tiny Delaware State College and was a hell of a punt returner and a great compliment to Jerry Rice. Taylor also ran a 4.67 40 at the combine that didn't really impress anyone but proved to have deceptive speed and excellent YAC ability due to his great body control. Taylor was really known for his ability to run with the ball after the catch...and that is Jones strength. Both guys are in the wco in the NFL as well. Lots of similarities to these players on paper.
John Taylor did little as a rookie, became a solid returner in his 2nd season, and a good #2 WR in his 3rd year. That could be the track Jacoby is on. Interestingly enough, Jone's position coach, Larry Kirksey, tutored Taylor (as well as Jerry Rice & Terrell Owens) during his years with the 49ers.
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I bet the Bengals wish they had kept Kevin Walter now since they are having in-house problems with their WRs. Great route runner with better than average hands. Walter had me skeptical at first, but after Andre went down the guy stepped up big time and I've been a fan of his since.
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I hope the injury bug won't find McGuffie again.
I sure do like to see what he can do in college.
Where did he go, some school in the big ten? Michigan?
I am willing to bet Mcguffie changes positions. I don't see him doing at michigan what he did in Highschool. They will probably turn him into another Wes Welker.
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I am willing to bet Mcguffie changes positions. I don't see him doing at michigan what he did in Highschool. They will probably turn him into another Wes Welker.
McGuffie is similar in size to Steve Slaton, whom Michigan coach Rich Rodriquez had success with at West Virginia in the spread option. I can see McGuffie in that role with the Wolverines.
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