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Old 03-14-2005   #21
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Foreman has no trade value...
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He was cut because he was making too much money to be a back-up...
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Old 03-14-2005   #23
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then why not let him go after June 1?
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And why?!?
Production, salary next year. It was bound to happen.
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then why not let him go after June 1?
We cut him now in order to allow him more time to catch on with someone and possibly to free up cap space to make a run at Pace...
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Why didn't we let Foreman go after June 1? Why didn't we at least try to get some value in a trade. Several teams are using the 3-4 this year, It's not like he's going to be out of football this year.......unless his injury has something to do with it.
The only two reasons I can think of for cutting him now as opposed to waiting for a trade or after June 1 are:

1. In fairness to the player so he can negotiate in the traditional FA period.
2. Cap Room for a move (presumably a move that couldn't be made without the extra room)
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Why are you cutting all of your linebackers?
Actually we cut one (Foreman) and signed one (Greenwood). Sharper is on his way out and a top reserve (Peek) may become a starter. And, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Texans draft another on Day 1.

Eric Brown was one of the hardest hitting guys we had out there. I remember him knocking himself unconscious on one hit at Reliant. He just lost a step or two and so it goes....

Foreman was steady and dependable but not a major impact guy. He's slow afoot and it's obvious the Texans want more speed at the LB position. His 2 million was a bit much for what he delivered. DaShon Polk gives you everything that Foreman does - for a fraction of the cost.

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The Pace part of the article is the biggest news item. If we can fit Pace in and maintain our sanity, we could be on the verge of being a major thorn in a lot of other teams side. The remaining question is what about McKinney and the center position. No question Pace is special, but it would seem we would have one more hole to fill to achieve what we want with the offensive line. I'm happy to hear that we are at least considering changing the O-line to protect David. I would assume this has to be a dream come true for David. Obviously this is not a done deal, but I will say the fact they are entertaining a bid on Pace is indeed very good news and I take my hat off to them. As you know, I'm adiment on the need to improve the O-line if we are going to go anywhere. Vinny, thanks for posting the article.
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sharper is next. this will definitely improve our chances of getting pace.....but hopefully we dont overpay bc this yr was a bit of a slide for pace despite being a probowler again.
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Actually we cut one (Foreman) and signed one (Greenwood). Sharper is on his way out and a top reserve (Peek) may become a starter. And, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Texans draft another on Day 1.

Eric Brown was one of the hardest hitting guys we had out there. I remember him knocking himself unconscious on one hit at Reliant. He just lost a step or two and so it goes....

Foreman was steady and dependable but not a major impact guy. He's slow afoot and it's obvious the Texans want more speed at the LB position. His 2 million was a bit much for what he delivered. DaShon Polk gives you everything that Foreman does - for a fraction of the cost.
he knocked himself unconscious in an exhibition game vs denver in 2003. that was sweet.
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-- Brown Could Return to Denver --
Tue Mar 15, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

The Denver Rocky Mountain News reports the Houston Texans released former Broncos S Eric Brown yesterday (noted earlier). While the phone has not rung yet, Brown's representative, Gene Burrough, said the Broncos certainly are on the safety's wish list. "I'm certain he'd want to come back," Burrough said. "You know he left his heart in Denver - that's where he got his start." Brown was the Broncos' second- round pick in the 1998 draft. Brown, who turns 30 on Sunday - has made 87 career starts but started only four games last season with the Texans.
And I'm sure the Bronco's coaches were extremely impressed with your coverage play in last year's game.
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then why not let him go after June 1?

Cuts after June 1st spread the remaining signing bonus over a two year period instead of all this year. The Texans would rather take the hit this year and be totally clear of those salaries next season. I think it's a good decision if it can be done that way.
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bueno riddance Foreman
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n the wake of being snubbed by UFA WR Plaxico Burress, the Vikings today signed former Ravens UFA Travis Taylor as they try to compensate for the loss of the traded Randy Moss. The details of the contract weren’t immediately available. Meanwhile, Burress had confused the Vikings by turning down a six-year, $36 million deal, with $9 million coming in Year Two in the form of a guaranteed roster bonus, and also rejecting a one-year contract proposal. Burress since has fired agent Michael Harrison and is expected to meet with representatives from Philadelphia and Miami. ... The Vikings have set up a visit with former Texans ILB Jay Foreman.
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Foreman and Brown both made big contributions to this team during its struggling first few seasons. It sucks to see them go because they both would have made great backups.. but we have to do whats best for the team.. and in this case, letting foreman go because of the size of his contract, and letting Brown go because, im assuming, we either had enough depth, or he didnt want a backup role.. was necessary.

I hold NO ill will towards either of these guys, and look forward to seeing them playing on other teams. Its not like they pulled a Posey on us and left at the stroke of midnight :P.


And the reason we let Foreman go instead of holding onto him is because we werent likely to get anything for him since he was coming off an injury and was not a "top tier" prospect. We were doing him a favor by letting him go so that he could negotiate a deal with another team, without that team being obligated to give anything to us. Basicly.. we were helping foreman get a job.

Im glad we did.. we still have a classy organization.. we did what we had to do but we didnt screw Foreman over to do it.
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-- Vikings Could Push to Sign Foreman --
Fri Mar 18, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

FFMastermind.com senior fantasy writer and Vikings Update correspondent John Holler has been told the Vikings might continue their free agent bidding by making a push for former Texans LB Jay Foreman.
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They wont go after Jay now...they traded for Sam Cowart today to NYJ for a 7th rd pick.
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lord i was hoping we were gonna get something for foreman.
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this is just a good move by the texans in general. here's why, 1. Eric Brown had a heavy salary and the Texans have glenn earl, ramon walker, as well as simmons who can play Strong safety. i already had him gone after this season. 2. as for foreman, his hefty salary was just too much to play back up. with the addition of greenwood, the lineup will be something like wong, sharper, greenwood, babin with peek coming off the bench and we'll probably see wong play more ILB. and what if they drafted D. Johnson, we'd have the best corp of LB's in the league. i think giving sharper the option to seek a trade was just for fun. "Sure, Jaime go on out and see what you can get" . " There isn't much to do in March anyway". says Casserly
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I too was shocked at the hard feelings by some Texans fans, I would even say shocked. In this day and age enjoy the player while he plays for you...because truthfully unless he is a franchise QB, RB or WR within a few years his price will cause the team to cut them loose. I personally wish him the best and hope he finds a place to play and I hope his team does well every game EXCEPT when they play the Texans
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