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Old 03-16-2005   #21
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I'd have to go back and look at the game again, but if I remember correctly one of those INT's was a pass that deflected off a Texan's hands and the other was a deep ball at the half. Neither INT was a bad play by Carr.
Donnie Edwards tipped the first INT and it seemed like it was in the air forever before it fell into Foley's hands...I have no problem finding Carr at fault for that INT, as I believe it was the direct result of his throwing motion...

That loss wasn't DD's fault anymore than it was Carr's fault of D-Rob's fault...Losing that game was a collective effort...
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Texans obviously need defense and the 49ers are shopping Julian peterson they are talking about trading him a first and a 3rd round pick to the chargers for Drew Brees. I don't think the Chargers will bite though. Would be a great addition for both teams considering the similarities in our defenses. Although the Chargers LB's are more agressive. Your big 3 is good but not good enough to win a championship yet. Brees LT and Gates heck even MCCardell was a pro bowler is better than Carr Davis and Johnson.
the bolts wouldnt trade a probowl QB for a LB coming off a serious injury from last yr. they would be retarded.
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i say we persue another supreme shutdown corner like dunta in the draft. that will give us the ability to play more man on man coverage and blitz more and more effectively.
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I agree with TexanFanInCC. Even though I used to be a 49er and Julian Peterson fan, trading for him would be dumb.

And another great corner for the Texans would be nice.
Even better would be a great offensive lineman.

I believe our defense has been able to keep us close in alot of our games, but our offense has struggled.
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The only problem i have with that is there seems to be a lot of DL that can fit in our scheme and instantly inject some youth into our aging D line whereas a shutdown corner we can wait a year on.
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The cornerback class next year is nowhere near as deep as this class is...I say if Rolle or Pac-Man fall to 13, take him in a heartbeat...If not, look CB in round 2, because a 2nd round corner this draft will have about equal value to a 1st round corner next year...
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If we end up cutting Sharper I would think about signing Burress. His demands have got to fall at this point. New York offered him four million a season (counting signing bonus). You could probably get him for that at this point. That would give Carr two legitimate WR targets. Gaffney is a good third reciever and Alexander would be great as a fourth guy. Then, in the draft you don't have to worry about WR. You can focus on CB, LB, and OT.
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The only problem i have with that is there seems to be a lot of DL that can fit in our scheme and instantly inject some youth into our aging D line whereas a shutdown corner we can wait a year on.
Who are these defensive linemen?
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If we end up cutting Sharper I would think about signing Burress. His demands have got to fall at this point. New York offered him four million a season (counting signing bonus). You could probably get him for that at this point. That would give Carr two legitimate WR targets. Gaffney is a good third reciever and Alexander would be great as a fourth guy. Then, in the draft you don't have to worry about WR. You can focus on CB, LB, and OT.
its not alexander damn it!!!!!! and burress signed with the giants
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The Giants did not sign Burress and are pursueing WR David Terrell.
Which definately throws a red flag to me that if the Steelers signed Cedric Wilson, The Vikings grab Travis Taylor, and The giants now snub him for Terrell? He needs to tell his agent to lower his price. Or he isnt all that everyone thought he was coming out of college.

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Also I worded it Badly I meant at our position #13 1st round defensive line will be there. O line Probably will not.

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Giants | Deal Reached with Burress - from www.KFFL.com
Thu, 17 Mar 2005 16:36:27 -0800

ESPN.com's Len Pasquarelli reports the New York Giants have reached a six-year deal with free agent WR Plaxico Burress (Steelers). The deal is worth $25 million and includes $8.25 million in guaranteed bonuses, an initial signing bonus of $5 million and a $3.25 option bonus due during the spring of 2006. The first two years of the deal have guaranteed salaries and Burress will earn $11.38 million over the first two years. Over the first three years of the deal, he will earn $14.6 million.

Looks like the Giants signed him to me...
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hmm wonder why its not on NFL.com yet of course with the baseball hearings going on ESPN did not give me squat on football today either.
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Whoa! Chill out. I got the guy's name wrong. I meant Armstrong. Either way, I heard the club is talking with Bradford. Personally, I think it's a big mistake unless he's willing to come for the veteran minimum. He hasn't shown much in three years. The problem this club has offensively is two-fold. First, Carr hasn't had enough time to throw. Some of y'all have pointed to McKinney, but everytime I watched (especially in the Cleveland game) Carr spent most of his time scrambling to his right. That clearly is an indication to me that the left side of the line is the problem. Yes, I'm sure Wand will be better in year two as a starter, but I'm not sold on him as a legitimate left tackle. The second problem is that Carr checked off to Davis too often. Certainly, a lot of that has to do with the lack of protection, but it also has to do with the recievers not getting open. Bringing back the same guys just doesn't make sense. Yet, I would hate to spend a top draft pick on a WR when we have so many needs on the defensive side of the ball.
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Some of y'all have pointed to McKinney, but everytime I watched (especially in the Cleveland game) Carr spent most of his time scrambling to his right. That clearly is an indication to me that the left side of the line is the problem.
Two points--(1) Carr as most right handed QB's will typically run to his right and (2) the best pass rusher often is lined up opposite the LT. Often the LT's best tool is just riding them on a long trip around the pocket and if he pressures too much the QB steps up into the pocket. With the collapse of the middle of the line, Carr is unable to step up into the pocket to assist the OT's in riding the DE's out of the play. The middle of the line (in Cleveland especially McKinney and Brown) was exploited even if their guys didn't get credit for the ultimate sack.
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Two points--(1) Carr as most right handed QB's will typically run to his right and (2) the best pass rusher often is lined up opposite the LT. Often the LT's best tool is just riding them on a long trip around the pocket and if he pressures too much the QB steps up into the pocket.
That may very well be. However, when listening to commentary during the games, most of the "experts" said that Carr "wasn't" stepping up in the pocket and not that "he couldn't" step up in the pocket. I realize experts can and are wrong in many instances, but I tend to follow their lead in this instance. I was one of those few people though that assumed the crowd was booing the offensive line in the Cleveland game. It was so obvious it was breaking down it wasn't even funny. When you have someone that is sacked well over 100 times in three seasons it's hard to question what they do, but Carr does need to learn some compensatory strategies or we need to make sure it isn't a problem.

I think the fact that the best pass rusher is put up against the left tackle is reason enough to have your best pass blocker there. Now, Wand may develop into that, but he wasn't anywhere close to that last year. I tend to believe that McKinney is nothing special, but how many truly special centers are there out there? Meanwhile, I keep reading in some mock drafts that they have us taking Alex Barron (tackle) in the first round. Anyone have a scouting report on this guy?
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That may very well be. However, when listening to commentary during the games, most of the "experts" said that Carr "wasn't" stepping up in the pocket and not that "he couldn't" step up in the pocket.
Well to each his own--JMO but it doesn't take an expert to tell if there is a pocket and far too often last year there wasn't. Certainly Carr can learn to maneuver better as well.
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