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Old 06-21-2008   #21
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Our FO will really have to earn their money when our 06 draft picks like DeMeco, Winston, and Daniels play out their rookie contracts. They drafted well, now they've gotta make a decision. Do they lock these guys in to long term deals with a hefty price tag attached to make sure they're here for the rest of their prime ala AJ? Or do they let them walk because they're so confident in their ability to draft and coach up their replacements ala the Pats model?

Personally, I say pay them!!!
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Our FO will really have to earn their money when our 06 draft picks like DeMeco, Winston, and Daniels play out their rookie contracts. They drafted well, now they've gotta make a decision. Do they lock these guys in to long term deals with a hefty price tag attached to make sure they're here for the rest of their prime ala AJ? Or do they let them walk because they're so confident in their ability to draft and coach up their replacements ala the Pats model?Personally, I say pay them!!!
They have choices to make. DeMeco is defeinately going to be kept.
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They have choices to make. DeMeco is defeinately going to be kept.
That goes without saying, Winston as well albeit to a lesser extent. The only one that I could personally see them let walk is Daniels and that would only be if he got a big head and wanted Tommy Kelly largest contract for his position in NFL history type money.
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Dallas Clark re-signed with the Colts on a 6 year deal. The terms weren't disclosed, but I would guess that would be a starting point for Daniels. With guards getting $50 million deals, I would think Winston would be looking for a little more.

But with CBA expired, Winston would be a RFA until 2012 (or until a new CBA is in place). That should help keep the cost down on Winston, somewhat. And it shows just how well the owners negotiated the last CBA. How Gene Upshaw still has a job baffles me.
I don't think it is as much about whether the owners got shellacked, or the players got too much with the 60% thing, as much as it is about the rookies being uncapped and making more than veterans with six years or more of service.
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It is in both players interest to hit the open market after the '11 off season. If their representatives are worth damn, that is what will happen. Uncapped year comes along once every seventy years. To miss that would be beyond stupid.


An NFL football player doesn't have the luxury of looking forward to a payday that is 3 or 4 years away. Too many things can happen and careers are too short.
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The dude had the 6th most yards of any TE last year. He also had the 6th most catches for a first down. The only guys better were Gonzalez, Witten, Winslow, Gates, and Cooley. Almost 150 more yards than Shockey and Dallas Clark. Of the TE's in the top 10 in yardage, only Gates and Cooley had more yards per catch.

Unfortunately, he had twice the number of fumbles as any of his nearest competitors.

If he can fix that fumbling issue, he's an elite TE.
To many drops in critical situations IMO. Does anyone have his drop #'s.
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I don't think it is as much about whether the owners got shellacked, or the players got too much with the 60% thing, as much as it is about the rookies being uncapped and making more than veterans with six years or more of service.
agree, you can only hope they do something about that. ykw left with alot of cash and that's about it.
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To many drops in critical situations IMO. Does anyone have his drop #'s.
He's listed as having 5. That's tied for 16th with a bunch of other people. Of the TE's, Dallas Clark had 12, Winslow 8, , Gates and Gonzalez and Marcedes Lewis 5.

EDIT: OOPS... that's in the AFC alone. When you merge the two, I don't know where he works out. I'll see if I can find the stats and verify that my source is correct.
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Don't know where he is in drops, but NFL.com lists him #1 in fumbles but #6 in receptions and 1st down catches.

He's earned an decently paid extension. 3TP is right, they may both wait for the uncapped year - if the owners are stupid enough to let that happen.
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Unless we draft some super stud RT or TE they are not going anywhere. And drafting down around 30th-32nd next year I doubt we get those studs.
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