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Old 06-17-2008   #21
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In reality, if we were the Arizona Cardinals of the AFC, everybody would be picking us to go 10-6 (and we actually would go 6-10).

6 1/2 months from now if we're 10-6, nobody's going to even remember this prediction. To be completely honest, if we're 6-10, nobody's going to remember this prediction then either.
Are you kidding? 6 1/2 months from now if we are 10-6 Wolf would bring this thread back to life.
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Are you kidding? 6 1/2 months from now if we are 10-6 Wolf would bring this thread back to life.
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Very good objective opinion Texanmike. I agree with you. Health will be a BIG issue as it is with any team, but the Texans don't have depth really at an position but QB, if the starters go down and you know that some will go down. If Bennett goes down, then the Texans are really going to be in a bad position.

I think the Texans will go 6-10 at the worst and 9-7 at best.

With that being said, the Texans have better players and all but it is still hard to say that they are a team on the rise for BIG things. Until we have a QB, where I can say WOW, he is THE GUY then I dunno. I am really mad about that extension Rick Smith got. He has made some good picks and a few that I don't agree with either. I think that Mcnair should have waited AT LEAST one more year to see what the Texans do this year to have a more accurate idea of where this team is going.

The position I feel the best about on the Texans right now is the WR position and they only have one STUD. Andre Davis played pretty well last year, and I really think if him and Johnson both are healthy this year he can be a guy that could put up 700-900 yards. On the other hand he could end up being a pretender. I think he'll do pretty well. Plus, we still have no idea how Jacoby Jones will play. He looked great in pre season, and then looked like a typical non special rookie before and after his early injury. Maybe Jones will become a great player, but right now he hasn't shown anything to storngly speculate that other than that pre season performance but I have been watching football for to long to put any relevance on pre season.
Not to get off topic - but I couldn't disagree more with the assessment on Rick Smith. This guy inherited a team coming off a two win season and in two years has completely revamped the roster, salvaged the salary cap situation, and put together a team that went 8-8 last season despite several injuries, some to key players. Every team in the NFL can look back on a player drafted or transaction made and second guess, but IMO it is hard to argue with the collective body of work.
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Very good objective opinion Texanmike. I agree with you. Health will be a BIG issue as it is with any team, but the Texans don't have depth really at an position but QB, if the starters go down and you know that some will go down. If Bennett goes down, then the Texans are really going to be in a bad position.

I think the Texans will go 6-10 at the worst and 9-7 at best.

With that being said, the Texans have better players and all but it is still hard to say that they are a team on the rise for BIG things. Until we have a QB, where I can say WOW, he is THE GUY then I dunno. I am really mad about that extension Rick Smith got. He has made some good picks and a few that I don't agree with either. I think that Mcnair should have waited AT LEAST one more year to see what the Texans do this year to have a more accurate idea of where this team is going.

The position I feel the best about on the Texans right now is the WR position and they only have one STUD. Andre Davis played pretty well last year, and I really think if him and Johnson both are healthy this year he can be a guy that could put up 700-900 yards. On the other hand he could end up being a pretender. I think he'll do pretty well. Plus, we still have no idea how Jacoby Jones will play. He looked great in pre season, and then looked like a typical non special rookie before and after his early injury. Maybe Jones will become a great player, but right now he hasn't shown anything to storngly speculate that other than that pre season performance but I have been watching football for to long to put any relevance on pre season.
Well, thats a Bold statement, if ever I saw one...
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Lets be honest here, last years record was really more like 7-9 than 8-8
if the Jags come into Reliant full-bore with their starters in the season finale.
OK splilt the difference and we're 7.5-8.5. The point is a 6 win season is not really much different than last year. Are we better than last year ? Maybe but
we've probably also got a tougher schedule. 6 wins vs. 8 or 9 wins is basically about the injury situation (yours and your oppenents), and a couple
key calls by the zebs.
I'd say personnel wise, we're much better off. The fact is we were very unlucky with the schedule this year, Two young guys holding the corner on defense. and as talented as they are, as high a ceiling as they have , they are still rookies. We still don't know if we have a LB who can run with an elite TE. Don't know how the o-line will shake out. Which Rb can string together seven healthy games....just a lot of bitter ifs for those first five games.

Same as last year. They go four & one out of the gate all things are possible.
But expecting a bunch of young guys to go on the road and play like hardened veterans, is pretty big reach. Possible, not probable.
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Default Re: Scout.com prediction Texans 6-10

So where did scout.com have the New York Giants finishing this past season before Training Camp?

BTW, the Giants went 8-8 the year before last and come back this past year and defeat the might cowpokes and the almighty perfect Patriots. The precedent has been set. Just line up on Sunday and let's see what happens.

With less injuries than last year, no way we don't finish at least one game to the plus.
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OK. To put it simply... there's no way to accurately predict the total wins. I mean you may get lucky... but if you predict say all 32 teams... and all of their games against one another... you'll be lucky to get 5 right..... But you can make statements about the team. I happen to think they don't give our offense enough credit.... and they don't account for the fact that we're looking for 2 new OLBs....... but generally... the things that will have the biggest impact are QB play and secondary play. If both go above expectations... we're going to have a great year... maybe even surpass my 10 win cap.. if they both have a terrible year.. we may be picking in the top 10 again..... most likely one will surpass my expecations and one will fall short and I think we'll wind up .500 +/- 1.

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OK. To put it simply... there's no way to accurately predict the total wins. I mean you may get lucky... but if you predict say all 32 teams... and all of their games against one another... you'll be lucky to get 5 right..... But you can make statements about the team.
I agree.

Last year, I made 1 prediction on the Texans just on how good I felt the team was and I predicted 8-8. I got lucky.

Now, I also made a second prediction. In the second prediction, which I don't think I printed anywhere online, I went through and tried to predict on a game by game basis before the season started how I thought all the teams were going to do.

I've been in some pick-em leagues now for about 10 years and I normally do better than the "experts" especially over the course of the entire season. But that's picking on a weekly basis and knowing about injuries and trends. Predicting the entire season before the season, I was totally and completely off. I picked 3 teams' records correctly: Seahawks, Cardinals, and Chargers. There were a lot of teams I missed by 1.

But there's just no way that anyone can really predict the season. There are too many variables. ESPECIALLY with a game simulator.

I think we're going to be a much better team this year, but I just don't know if that's going to be reflected in the record. I think we're going to win some by bigger margins and lose some by narrower margins. But I'm expecting a 9-7 season at this point.

I'm just hoping I don't see another meltdown like that Atlanta through San Diego stretch.
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Whoever agrees with this clown assessment just doesn't get it.

We gave the game away to the Titans at the end. That would have put us at 9 and 7.

And the Jags? Come on! If you know football you know that they are a fluke. And please don't give me how solid their defense or their offense is garbage. We just cut their third string QB that had his "magic day" against us.

We'll go 4 and 2 (if not 5 and 1) in the division and 10 and 6 in the 2008 season. We've learned what it takes to win and we've seen the commitment from the front office and coaching staff.

The thing that makes me smile the most about reading that CRAP article is knowing that one ALEX GIBBS read it as well. Whew! He's gonna be pissed.
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I'm trying to understand scout.coms projection they provide good coverage its their analysis that seems to be shortsighted.

Look the biggest thing is to keep Schaub healthy & upright Rick Smith acomplished this by taking a LT in the first round, signed off by Alex Gibbs, & also addressed a even bigger weakness @ Center with Chris Meyers. coaching the talent already on hand up via Gibbs will also help improve offensive time of possesion, scoring, yardage etc that translates into more wins not less.

Scout.com needs to flip it to read 10-6
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who says 6 1/2 might be year and a half :mshadows:
This is true. Wolf is an appropriate name. There is no amount of time that goes by that makes any post or thread safe as long as Wolf patrols the board.
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Has anyone done a game by game analysis of the upcoming Texan's schedule on texanstalk.com?

That might be fun to do.
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Has anyone done a game by game analysis of the upcoming Texan's schedule on texanstalk.com?

That might be fun to do.
I made a predictions thread, and many people did it there:

http://texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49257
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If I remember correctly, scout.com gave the Texan draft an F and gave the Titan draft a B- so you have to take there analysis with a grain of salt.
And so we have it here, folks

We are caring about the opinions of a site that had its opinions invalidated greatly
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Were we not playing backups? Why, I think we were.
Except for Sage (who really is atleast our #1b and not our #2 QB), I think we went mostly with starters for the whole game ?
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Except for Sage (who really is atleast our #1b and not our #2 QB), I think we went mostly with starters for the whole game ?
No.

I'm sure we didn't. I think they played like a quarter or half. Don't remember.
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Except for Sage (who really is atleast our #1b and not our #2 QB), I think we went mostly with starters for the whole game ?
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Donít believe the media hype. BOTH teams had several players out today.
Iím not one to be a homer, and thatís not going to change today - but I have to address the media blitz today that was pounding us in the face with a hammer labeled ďThe Jaguars are resting their best players.Ē Let me cut right to the chase. If you want to see who the Jaguars were playing without - go to ANY football site in existence and there will be an article about it, or watch highlights of the game and listen to the announcers regurgitate the information over and over. Here are the players the Texans were playing without:

Starting QB Matt Schaub
Starting RB Ahman Green
Starting C Steve McKinney
Starting OG Fred Weary
Starting DE Anthony Weaver
Starting SS Glenn Earl
Starting CB Dunta Robinson
Starting KR Jerome Mathis

So it would be nice if the media, who have suddenly made darlings out of the Jaguars, could just shut their mouths about that garbage. The bottom line is - the Texans beat the Jaguars handily, and BOTH TEAMS had a lot of key players not in the starting lineup. Now, to say the game was meaningless to the Jaguars - thatís a fair point that canít be argued. Some would say that itís more important to have momentum going into a playoff game than it is to rest your players - hogwash. The Jags would have played far better had they started their full compliment of players, and if the game had been important to them. Thatís not the point I have issue with. But this noise about how the Jaguars were somehow at a huge competitive disadvantage because they didnít play all their best guys is a load of bull.

Rant over. Okay, letís get back to the actual contest.
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Very good objective opinion Texanmike. I agree with you. Health will be a BIG issue as it is with any team, but the Texans don't have depth really at an position but QB, if the starters go down and you know that some will go down. If Bennett goes down, then the Texans are really going to be in a bad position.

I think the Texans will go 6-10 at the worst and 9-7 at best.

With that being said, the Texans have better players and all but it is still hard to say that they are a team on the rise for BIG things. Until we have a QB, where I can say WOW, he is THE GUY then I dunno. I am really mad about that extension Rick Smith got. He has made some good picks and a few that I don't agree with either. I think that Mcnair should have waited AT LEAST one more year to see what the Texans do this year to have a more accurate idea of where this team is going.

The position I feel the best about on the Texans right now is the WR position and they only have one STUD. Andre Davis played pretty well last year, and I really think if him and Johnson both are healthy this year he can be a guy that could put up 700-900 yards. On the other hand he could end up being a pretender. I think he'll do pretty well. Plus, we still have no idea how Jacoby Jones will play. He looked great in pre season, and then looked like a typical non special rookie before and after his early injury. Maybe Jones will become a great player, but right now he hasn't shown anything to storngly speculate that other than that pre season performance but I have been watching football for to long to put any relevance on pre season.
When you bold everything, it reminds me the folks who have to capslock everything, why is that? Oh and then when you do want to emphesize something and have it all caps it is not noticed for the most part.

If my understanding is correct, if Bob McNair would have waited a year to do this extention Rick Smith would have been a FA at the time or very close to it by months. You say he has had some good picks but also ones you do not like, I am curious to which of the 6th round picks is it you do not like? Which FA pickup is it that Rick Smith screwed up on? What guy off the scrap heap did he not find that has been at least somewhat productive, especially with all the injuries? Hell he found Maddoxx and Demps sitting at home not doing Diddly Poo and they have been very big contributers, Demps is even an upgrade over what we had.
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Has anyone done a game by game analysis of the upcoming Texan's schedule on texanstalk.com?

That might be fun to do.
I'll put out there a little more indepth analysis as we get closer to the season.

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