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Old 03-12-2005   #21
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Our offensive line was coming together, but we overpaid for wade and alot of other players(Greenwood) that will put us in cap situations. We had the opportunity to add a solid lineman to our line. Wand is ok, Pitts is getting much better at guard, McKinney is still solid but becoming inconsistent, Wade is functional when he is not hurt. So hopefully next year Carr will have at least three seconds to throw the ball.

I dont know if you guys realize that the Colts defense will be better and the Jags will have one hell of a pass rush. the Titans are rebuilding so at least we will stomp them. Our real problem is C. Palmer who calls the worst play at the worst time. He has a talent for it. I mean who runs a 5'8" running back three straight times in the redzone when you have two recievers and a tight end that can outjump damn near any corner. In my opinion if we get more aggressive on offense our line will look a hundred times better. I mean three and four step drops and get rid of it would be nice.
OMG, do you know what i would give to see that. In the 2003 season when we beat Miami on there on field, I cut out an article from Sports Illustrated and Jason Taylor said "On a three step drop you're not going to stop David, all you can do is put your hands up."
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I can tell you this. You are not going to be throwing a 50 yard bomb with a 3-step drop. 40-yard dash about 4.5 seconds. DL getting to QB 3.0 seconds. Do the math. Cover-2 can help shutdown a 3-step drop. Yeah Carr can get rid of the ball, but how long of a pass will he be able to complete.
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I agree the OL needs some work. But it's only March. Let's see how the FA/trades work out and the draft.

If we make no moves for the OL in FA/trades or draft, then I think we got problems on opening day.
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Id rather them give Wand some help instead of being alone to block a probable future Hall of Fame DE. Teams don't give up guys like Pace without multiple #1's usually.
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Come on dude have some kinda hope LoL. I don't know too much about how an the O-Line works, but i would imagine that the O-Line would perform better the more time they spend on the field working together. It would only make since that one would play better alongside people they've known for years rather than a different group of people every year.

But, theres only one way to find out and it won't be too much longer (Wishful Thinking... i miss football so much) before we see how it pans out.
This is very true. In high school we had the same o-line for three years and worked like a well oiled machine. Then I played semi-pro ball and it wasn't the same. The system was almost exact to what we ran in high school but as far as knowing the guy playing next to you jus wasn't happening. So I agree, maybe a few tweeks here and there but I think we need to allow them time to gel.
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Id rather them give Wand some help instead of being alone to block a probable future Hall of Fame DE.
The Raven's Ogden, one of the premier LTs in the game, couldn't handle him
one-on-one. So let's keep an xtra back in to help or use doble TE, whatever
offensive configuation that keeps DCs butt upright when going against this guy. We can get use 2nd, 3rd round picks to get 1-2 guys in the draft at center and/or guard to replace geritol crew and keep 'em guessing about
what we do with our 1st rounder.
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This is very true. In high school we had the same o-line for three years and worked like a well oiled machine. Then I played semi-pro ball and it wasn't the same. The system was almost exact to what we ran in high school but as far as knowing the guy playing next to you jus wasn't happening. So I agree, maybe a few tweeks here and there but I think we need to allow them time to gel.
The only problem with that is that Wiegert (weak link) will be 33 in August and McKinney (weakest link) will be 30 in October. About the time our line is playing like a well oiled machine (if possible) we will have to replace a couple of them. 30 isn't exactly old for an OL but when we are talking about McKinney I am saying he isn't going to improve much if any from here on out and he has been stinking up the joint. Hopefully we can pick up at least one eventual replacement in the draft and give him some spot play this year and if we are really lucky take over one of those spots this year.
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Id rather them give Wand some help instead of being alone to block a probable future Hall of Fame DE. Teams don't give up guys like Pace without multiple #1's usually.
I love rational thought!!

LT was exposed last year, at times, only because of other weaknesses on the rest of the line. If the interior line is fixed, assuming the offensive coaching staff has any clue at all, Wand will have help slid to his side when needed. He was not the worst lineman starting for us last year.
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Read the bottom of this article.

We definitely need to upgrade at offensive line. carr still needs time to throw the ball downfield, and he didnt get it last yr towards the end of the season.
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We definitely need to upgrade at offensive line. carr still needs time to throw the ball downfield, and he didnt get it last yr towards the end of the season.

Lehr already signed with Atlanta.
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OMG, do you know what i would give to see that. In the 2003 season when we beat Miami on there on field, I cut out an article from Sports Illustrated and Jason Taylor said "On a three step drop you're not going to stop David, all you can do is put your hands up."
Both of you guys make a good point, but you would have to cut the passing playbook basically in half if Carr only were able to take 3 step drops. Plus you would be taking away one of the things that makes AJ so special, his ability to go down field and make the big plays. Now yes it seems like a good idea to do 3 step drops until the line gets better but remember last year all of those posts like "we only through the deep ball twice today" and "we have to try and stretch the field deep", which do make good points, we have to mix it up, 3 step drops, 5 step drops, and 7 step drops.


Oh and if you recall the last game against Cleveland, all Carr did was drop back 3 steps, but the defense was in his face before he could setup. Something has to be done whether its, draft a new player, add a new player, or just better coaching and execution of the players that we have now.
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Both of you guys make a good point, but you would have to cut the passing playbook basically in half if Carr only were able to take 3 step drops. Plus you would be taking away one of the things that makes AJ so special, his ability to go down field and make the big plays. Now yes it seems like a good idea to do 3 step drops until the line gets better but remember last year all of those posts like "we only through the deep ball twice today" and "we have to try and stretch the field deep", which do make good points, we have to mix it up, 3 step drops, 5 step drops, and 7 step drops.


Oh and if you recall the last game against Cleveland, all Carr did was drop back 3 steps, but the defense was in his face before he could setup. Something has to be done whether its, draft a new player, add a new player, or just better coaching and execution of the players that we have now.
I agree with the execution of our center, who else is with me?
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