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Old 05-07-2008   #41
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It means the coverage was so good the QB had to hold on to the ball and gave time for the DL to get there.
Yes I know I was being sarcastic because of people not wanting to improve the secondary, I think some would rather still have Faggins there and just improve the D-Line. Of course there is no D-Line that could be great enough to over come your corner contineously being beaten for large amounts of yardage and TDs.

Why not continue to improve the team in all aspects. Each draft you have to pick which parts to improve on so that you do not have one aspect that sucks so bad that there is no way to compensate for its weakness.
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Dominique Barber is FS per NFL draft scout with SS/CB as 2nd position. Size is good for either. Speed not what I want but ok for the box.
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...php?pyid=33308
i think rick smith said they were gonna use barber as a FS, actually... not sure though.
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i think rick smith said they were gonna use barber as a FS, actually... not sure though.
He has left safety and right safety like he does with linebackers. They said they like him as an "in the box" safety. Methinks they'll work him in on short yardage packages if he makes the team.
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He has left safety and right safety like he does with linebackers.

I seriously doubt that.

If we're talking about labels...maybe....but I doubt that too...

If we're talking about traditional roles/responsibilities (which is what I think you are referring to) I think that is something folks here on the board have latched on to and ran with...JMO...

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I think Okam and Okoye will make an OK duo (wow, that was bad).

Seriously, Okam should be able to take up blockers and free things up for Amobi to do his thing, keep blockers off Demeco, and help the overall play of our defense vesus the run. I wouldn't be surprised if he was logging major playing time for us sooner rather than later.
Guess we can call em the Ok corral...Wow, what a bad joke. Back to reality, we need one more guy to make it shine, a pure pass rushing DE.
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He has left safety and right safety like he does with linebackers. They said they like him as an "in the box" safety. Methinks they'll work him in on short yardage packages if he makes the team.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kubiak has cut one of his draftees the same year he was drafted. PS maybe, but not cut.

IMO, it'll be one of the Brandons cut before Barber. I think Barber would be snatched from the PS if he were placed there.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kubiak has cut one of his draftees the same year he was drafted. PS maybe, but not cut.

IMO, it'll be one of the Brandons cut before Barber. I think Barber would be snatched from the PS if he were placed there.
The only guy drafted during the Kubiak era not still associated with the team is Lundy. Technically folks are waived/cut to get to the practice squad and some have gone through that process. Kubiak clearly believes later round guys, heck young guys period, have to be given time to develop and isn't going to pull any Charles Hill moves.
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The only guy drafted during the Kubiak era not still associated with the team is Lundy. Technically folks are waived/cut to get to the practice squad and some have gone through that process. Kubiak clearly believes later round guys, heck young guys period, have to be given time to develop and isn't going to pull any Charles Hill moves.
Probably a dumb question but.....Are they still paid?

Lundy was still given the chance to earn a spot on the team his first year. Looking back, I kinda wish we had kept him a while longer. Surely he could've performed better than Dayne.

Anywho, the odds of Barber making the team this year are very good, IMO.
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Probably a dumb question but.....Are they still paid?
Nope.
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Lundy was still given the chance to earn a spot on the team his first year. Looking back, I kinda wish we had kept him a while longer. Surely he could've performed better than Dayne.
I think Lundy was dropped because his inability to block was getting HWWNBN killed.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Kubiak has cut one of his draftees the same year he was drafted. PS maybe, but not cut.

IMO, it'll be one of the Brandons cut before Barber. I think Barber would be snatched from the PS if he were placed there.
I dont care about what happened the past 2 drafts, no 6th round pick is handed a spot on an ascending NFL team. Hence the "if he makes the team" comment, he's gonna have to earn his spot just like every other player on the roster.
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So ummm somebody said we are getting Jason Taylor?! Or was that just my imagination?! This MB would go insane if that happened.
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I dont care about what happened the past 2 drafts, no 6th round pick is handed a spot on an ascending NFL team. Hence the "if he makes the team" comment, he's gonna have to earn his spot just like every other player on the roster.
Relax, I never said anyone would be handed a spot. I mentioned what Kubiak has done the past couple of seasons. As far as "having to earn his spot like everyone else".....that goes without saying.
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Probably a dumb question but.....Are they still paid?

Lundy was still given the chance to earn a spot on the team his first year. Looking back, I kinda wish we had kept him a while longer. Surely he could've performed better than Dayne.

Anywho, the odds of Barber making the team this year are very good, IMO.
Hmmm, if I'm going in the way back machine, I'm not so sure that would have been a good idea:

After the Texans released Lundy, he got busted for pot smoking and open container. You think if a guy wants to smoke dope, he would find a better place than in a parked car outside a playground.
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Hmmm, if I'm going in the way back machine, I'm not so sure that would have been a good idea:

After the Texans released Lundy, he got busted for pot smoking and open container. You think if a guy wants to smoke dope, he would find a better place than in a parked car outside a playground.
Yeah, I remember that too, but that was after he'd gotten whacked. Hmm..dunno, maybe the team sensed the guy wasn't right upstairs.

Either way, I'd still bet on him before Dayne. All is moot now. We have an abundance of RB's that're better than both.......if healthy.
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i think rick smith said they were gonna use barber as a FS, actually... not sure though.
My understanding, too. I thought the pick was SS overkill until I found out he could play FS.
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Hmmm, if I'm going in the way back machine, I'm not so sure that would have been a good idea:

After the Texans released Lundy, he got busted for pot smoking and open container. You think if a guy wants to smoke dope, he would find a better place than in a parked car outside a playground.
Play ground is probably where he learned to dope & drink.
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