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Old 05-02-2008   #61
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I like Spencer and all, but personally I dont see him being in game shape soon enough to start anywhere on the line. I'm thinking he starts as interior rotation, then if he gets in shape they make him the swing man at the 2 tackle spots. I think it will also depend on how good a start Studdard and Frye have as to how far down the chart Spencer falls.
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I for one would like to see McKinney resigned. Plays both C & G and probably could be had cheap and would provide instant depth....
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I like McKinney, but I don't want him taking a roster spot away from a young talented player...
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I'm thinking he starts as interior rotation.
They don't rotate the Oline.

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I think it will also depend on how good a start Studdard and Frye have as to how far down the chart Spencer falls.
So total pessimism about Spencer and total optimism about Studdard and Frye. I don't get it. Spencer beat out a starting quality guy as a 3rd round rookie. Studdard and Frye hopefully have potential but they haven't achieved anything close to that. There is no more reason to think Spencer will not recover his former performance than there is to believe Studdard and Frye are going to challenge for starting spots.
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So total pessimism about Spencer and total optimism about Studdard and Frye. I don't get it. Spencer beat out a starting quality guy as a 3rd round rookie. Studdard and Frye hopefully have potential but they haven't achieved anything close to that. There is no more reason to think Spencer will not recover his former performance than there is to believe Studdard and Frye are going to challenge for starting spots.
When I said rotation I probably should have said depth chart. Rotate as in rotate backups in and out to spell the starters. I'm not totally pessimistic, just very cautiously optimistic. Training / practice shape is one thing, game shape is totally different. I guess you don't think his injury was that serious? It was very serious as was Dunta's. I thought we were talking about who would start come opening day, and as far as that goes, no, I'm not that optomistic about spencer being a starter at any of the O-line positions, but he will probably play and will get in better and better shape as the season goes on I think. Time will tell.
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Rotate as in rotate backups in and out to spell the starters.
I am still not getting your point. They don't spell the starters on OL. They only come out for injury. On OL if you ain't the starter you are sitting on the bench except for special teams plays.

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No it was a horrendous injury, but one which come start of the season will be two years old. Beyond that, none of us knows. The Texans apparently think he is going to be back or they would injury settle him and be done.
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Because you have a guy at LG who is a four year starter and no clear starter at RG. Why make two guys change position instead of one?
Yes but that's the point Kac, you have two canidates who could play there(RT) in Pitts and Spencer. & I believe Pits gets cut befor he stays at left gaurd in this system. They paid him, but Weary is on his way out too.
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I am extremely happy that we've addressed the OL in the offseason. Its always been an achilles heel of our's and we've always taken baby steps to correct it.

But this offseason we've added Alex Gibbs to the coaching staff, a solid starting young center in Chris Meyers who has experience in the type of scheme we'll be running, and a 1st round LT who is a prototypical ZBS LT and a great athlete.

Not to mention the depth on the OL by resigning Weary and assuming Spencer is able to positively contribute this season along with another year of experience for our younger guys on the OL.

We tip toed the line between overhauling the OL where chemistry would be an issue and doing enough to make substantial changes while not affecting the chemistry already developed on the OL.
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2008 starting O-line:
Brown - Pitts - Myers - Spencer - Winston

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Salaam, Weary, Eslinger, Brisiel, Butler


The Texans apparently resigned Weary to a one year contract, so it looks like Studdard will be on the practice squad along with Chris White. Frye and Black probably get cut.
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If Spencer's healthy I could see it going down like that MR. PC
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If Spencer can get into his previous form then I think our line could in fact be the best in the league. And besides I like having a mauler type blocker in the middle to contain guys like Haynesworth and henderson.
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I see this turning out two ways by the end of next season:

Brown - Pitts - Myers - Spencer - Winston

Spencer - Pitts - Myers - Winston - Brown

This is assuming that Myers beats out competition at Center (which I think he will) and Spencer comes back healthy. The second scenario assumes that Spencer comes back 100% and becomes what we hope he could be. I think Brown would make a monster RT.
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2008 starting O-line:
Brown - Pitts - Myers - Spencer - Winston

bench
Salaam, Weary, Eslinger, Brisiel, Butler


The Texans apparently resigned Weary to a one year contract, so it looks like Studdard will be on the practice squad along with Chris White. Frye and Black probably get cut.
We may grow into that by the end of the season, but I doubt very much we open that way. By 09 though, that could be a very good line if all things workout.
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