Texans Cornerback Discussion

[J-Russ]

Originally Posted by Hook'er

..........overloaded? Why did Dallas and SD just draft CB's in the 1st? You need at least 3 starter quality CB's in this league.

Dallas: Terrence Newman, Anthony Henry(they want to convert to FS), and Pac-Man Jones(Do you think they trust him?)

SD: Air Cromartie, Quentin( I had 4 years with 1 int or none) Jammer.

Do you want me to explain why they draft a CB?

[ubecool454]

Originally Posted by Hook'er

...............more like happy trails Faggins!

Come on Texans fans....ease up on Faggins. The guy looked pretty bad against Steve Smith in the second game last year but Smith makes 95% of the CBs in the NFL look bad..(dunta is in the 5%). Faggins biggest problem is he is not as good as Dunta and he was the one that most teams would take a chance against. I will never forget the pic of Faggins getting the INT and standing up on the bullpen wall.....we were loving him then. The guy cannot help it if his talents were not the same as Duntas'. All being said the guy surely wasn't out there getting beat to make the fans hate him. I know he was doing the best that his talents allowed him to do. I love all my Texans players...So stop hating on Faggins. Faggins has somehow become todays Matt Stevens and its not right.

[bah007]

Faggins is actually a decent nickelback.

Unfortunately, when Dunta went down, we got to see what he could do as the #2 CB. It wasn't pretty.

[TheRealJoker]

Faggins is one of the few remaining original Texans left. Considering he's lasted as long as he has in this league as a 6th round pick and even had a couple decent flashes of solid play makes him a good pick by the franchise.

That being said I doubt he'll be able to keep up with the added competition in TC that comes with the team turning the corner and becoming a winner. So i'll say farewell to Faggins once he's cut because then we'll know that our secondary has gotten stronger.

I'm really excited about our CBs this year. If all goes well then we've got 4 quality CBs. If all doesn't go well then we'll maybe have 2 depending on who does and doesn't pan out between Bennett/Reeves/Molden/Dunta this season. I just hope we dont give WRs a 5 yard cushion this season. Watching us give the Colts WRs such a large cushion in our last game against them and watching Peyton pad his stats was too painful to watch. Not to mention Joey Harrington looking like an All Pro against us and Gray torching us for 4 tds with the scout team

If the secondary holds up its end of the bargain I believe the Texans will have a fierce pass rush with Mario/Amobi's expected improvement with more experience along with someone else on the team stepping up to help harass the qbs this season.

Personally I think the guy to step up as our pass rush specialist will be Chaun Thompson. I think Diles will win the Sam job in camp which will push Bentley to be the backup and Thompson to be our 3rd down pass rush DE, he's played that role before and he's got more than enough athleticism to be a force in that role.

[Mr teX]

Originally Posted by TexansLucky13

I agree with you. The thing is, pre-injury D-Rob was the best corner on this team. If he isn't healthy come game one, Freddie will start on the left side, regardless.

IMO it would be great (if Freddie continues to develop) to put him on the #1 WR and leave Dunta on the right side.

Also, if Dunta is playing on the right side, we could use him better in a pass rushing scheme. It seems to me like every time we send Dunta in the backfield, he causes hell for the QB. Putting him on the blind side might help that.

in our defensive scheme the CB's stay on 1 side of the field, they don't line up according to the offense's top WR; This is evidenced by Steve Smith's 2 early TD's against Faggins last year. It's going to be bennett & Reeves with Mulden as the nickel guy.. for now. When Dunta comes back Who knows b/c by then we'll have had a good idea of who belongs where.

[El Tejano]

Originally Posted by ubecool454

Come on Texans fans....ease up on Faggins. The guy looked pretty bad against Steve Smith in the second game last year but Smith makes 95% of the CBs in the NFL look bad..(dunta is in the 5%). Faggins biggest problem is he is not as good as Dunta and he was the one that most teams would take a chance against. I will never forget the pic of Faggins getting the INT and standing up on the bullpen wall.....we were loving him then. The guy cannot help it if his talents were not the same as Duntas'. All being said the guy surely wasn't out there getting beat to make the fans hate him. I know he was doing the best that his talents allowed him to do. I love all my Texans players...So stop hating on Faggins. Faggins has somehow become todays Matt Stevens and its not right.

It's not that we hate him. I for one was a very big fan of Faggins, until he became the #2 CB. That time he was in the stands, Petey was back on the team and was the nickel. That is where we all want him to be, because he excels there. Not at #2.

[RipTraxx]

Originally Posted by J-Russ

Oh, wow. Jesus. How bout getting a starter for each position before thinking about the luxury sides.

Like I said, either a 3rd round CB, with loads of talents and skills, becomes our dime, or a dude getting paid starter will. And Since you'll like to keep all these talents at one position, then why don't you tell me who you'll like to see rot on the bench? And while you at it, what do you suppose we do with our other #3 qualities CBs? Let them become our #5 and #6? okkk.

EDIT: btw, I consider Demps more of a SS then a FS. The dude has no hands. You gotta be a play-maker to be a good FS.

I agree w/ Demps and his hands of stone. The thing is that CC seems to be a more sound tackler, which is paramount for a SS. IMO

[hollywood_texan]

Originally Posted by TheRealJoker

Faggins is one of the few remaining original Texans left. Considering he's lasted as long as he has in this league as a 6th round pick and even had a couple decent flashes of solid play makes him a good pick by the franchise.

That being said I doubt he'll be able to keep up with the added competition in TC that comes with the team turning the corner and becoming a winner. So i'll say farewell to Faggins once he's cut because then we'll know that our secondary has gotten stronger.

Sad but true...

I have always liked Faggins despite his limitations. For lack of a better example, he's kind of a version of Rocky for the Texans.

But, like you said, as much as played considering he was a 6th round pick in the first draft and a few flashes of glory (particularly the Battle Red Day interception against the Jags with the end zone celebration), Faggins being cut more than likely means are defensive secondary is turning the corner and the Texans defense improving to become a wrecking machine.

I really appreciate everything he has done, it's just kind of how life and the NFL works as things move along...