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Old 04-26-2008   #221
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If your team is making the playoffs, winning divisions, or winning championships, no.

If your best season is 8-8 and you have finished last 5 out of 6 seasons, then yes, our 1st round pick should be able to make an instant impact.
I would have to disagree with this. I don't expect the Texans to draft a player who will start from day one just because we've finished 8-8 and last in our division 5 out of 6 years. Would it be nice to have a corner or RB who would start immediately and do well? Absolutely. But if the Texans think that Duane Brown will in time be a better LT than Jenkins will be a CB, even if Jenkins would immediately start and Brown won't then you have to draft Duane.
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In all fairness to Brown, Spencer wasn't expected to win the starting job so early his rookie season. I would like to see him compete in camp, but it will be interesting if he lines up across from Groves of Jacksonville now. I seriously have doubts about how quickly Brown will pick up our system. He struggled when facing complex defenses, and the NFL does not feature "cake" systems. I think he will have to be eased into a role, and we should completely expect Salam to start the season at LT. Hopefully, this allows us to put Spencer at RG where I've been screaming for him to play since he was a prospect.
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First off, he was drafted by Rick Smith. Second, we have the best o-line coach here. 3rd, Kubiak knows offense. All three guys have an eye for talent.Therefore....

Kubiak/Smith/Gibbs >>>> everyone here.
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Oh btw, I bet SWT have never ever seen him play before. Not saying I have, but of course the people who drafted him had.
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They like him for the people he has played against and being successful in doing so. He also apparently has nice athletic ability. Hey if he produces I am all for the pick.
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They like him for the people he has played against and being successful in doing so. He also apparently has nice athletic ability. Hey if he produces I am all for the pick.
Yeah Kubes mentioned he played against Chris Long, does any one know how he did? I think if he did well against Long, a guy that has no quit and is a hell of a DE prospect, then he probably will be a good LT for us.
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Good size and bulk with long arms...Excellent athleticism...Light on his feet...Very quick and moves well....Has terrific balance and agility...Able to get to the second level...Does a nice job in pass pro...Offers some versatility...Still has some upside.

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Is not real strong or physical...May be a bit of a 'tweener...Plays too tall and does not bend his knees well...Raw and not a great technician...Isn't stout at the point of attack...Gets a marginal push..Lacks a killer instinct...Not a fit for every scheme.

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Began his Hokie career at tight end...Played right and left tackle during his college career and could also project inside to guard at the pro level..Finesse type whose best fit will likely come in a zone blocking scheme...Developmental prospect and a Workout Warrior with some very intriguing physical tools...Similar to Brandon Frye.
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They like him for the people he has played against and being successful in doing so. He also apparently has nice athletic ability. Hey if he produces I am all for the pick.
Not trying to bash or be a buzz-kill, but he gave up 8.5 sacks in a system that was not a pass oriented system.
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I don't know. The Texans needed a pick that would really ignite the fanbase. Duane Brown is not it. We will see how this all turns out. I am hoping for the best. Would have liked Mike Jenkins in the back. He was not a reach at 18. The dropoff in CB's is pretty big, too (especially when you don't even have a second).
So a franchise best record does not ignite the fan base? Winning is the goal here. If we wanted to "ignite the fan base" they would have taken VY or Reggie. Obviously, we are trying to build a complete team, not a Fantasy Football one.
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they had 8 OT's going in the 1st? i missed that
Almost.
We picked the number 7 OT.
Jake Long - #1 - Dolphins
Ryan Clady - #12 - Broncos
Chris Williams - #14 - Bears
Brandon Albert - #15 - Chiefs (I'm not counting him)
Gosder Cherilus - #17 - Lions
Jeff Otah - #19 - Steelers
Sam Baker - #21 - Falcons
Duane Brown - #28 - Texans

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im sick of fans thinking they know more than the coaches.. SWT and others haven't even seen the guy play and hes saying its a bad pick. thats retarded.

reggie had the hype.. we took mario
winston had the hype at #33.. we took demeco ryans

etc

hype means sh1t when it comes to the draft
Excellent points. If Gibbs handpicked the guy, he must have something on the ball.
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For about five years now I've been begging for the Texans to take a LT in the first round. It may have been a reach and by no means a sexy pick, but I'll take an o-line anchor in the first round...about time they finally came around to it.

It will be interesting to see him start for the Texans. I expect Salaam to be working with him throughout training camps and bringing him up to speed. As much as the talk is of him as a project, I don't think he'll ride the pine.
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So a franchise best record does not ignite the fan base? Winning is the goal here. If we wanted to "ignite the fan base" they would have taken VY or Reggie. Obviously, we are trying to build a complete team, not a Fantasy Football one.
Mario Williams ignited the fanbase. That was a good pick from the beginning. He was on the radar. A guy like Brown is going to take time to build up and the Texas MUST be successful.
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btw, if this was really Gibbs' guy, then they probably zeroed in on him. now would you rather have them take him at 18 or try and move down and get some picks AND get the guy they want. to Gibbs, Smith, etc, they just pulled a helluva deal.
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Good size and bulk with long arms...Excellent athleticism...Light on his feet...Very quick and moves well....Has terrific balance and agility...Able to get to the second level...Does a nice job in pass pro...Offers some versatility...Still has some upside.

Weaknesses:

Is not real strong or physical...May be a bit of a 'tweener...Plays too tall and does not bend his knees well...Raw and not a great technician...Isn't stout at the point of attack...Gets a marginal push..Lacks a killer instinct...Not a fit for every scheme.

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Began his Hokie career at tight end...Played right and left tackle during his college career and could also project inside to guard at the pro level..Finesse type whose best fit will likely come in a zone blocking scheme...Developmental prospect and a Workout Warrior with some very intriguing physical tools...Similar to Brandon Frye.
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sco...uanebrown.html
There's your answer to why he was picked right there!
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I hope this was not already posted but I have read so much my damn eyes are starting to cross!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/5535.html

BIOGRAPHY: Former tight end who moved to offensive tackle as a sophomore then started the next three seasons. All-Conference selection after his junior and senior campaigns. Used on both the left and right side.

POSITIVES: Athletic college tackle who's at his best in confined quarters. Blocks with a wide base, shows good knee-bend, and effective with his hands. Jolts opponents with a violent hand-punch, stays square, and seals the edge with good body positioning. Gets out to the second level and annihilates linebackers. Patient in pass protection, can adjust to opponents, and keeps his feet moving. Does enough to ride defenders from their angle of attack.

NEGATIVES: Lacks top lateral blocking range. At times lazy with his hands.

ANALYSIS: Brown is a well-built blocker who has displayed a variety of skills the past three years. He offers potential in a zone blocking scheme, yet he could also thrive in a power-running offense when he physically matures.
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I hope this was not already posted but I have read so much my damn eyes are starting to cross!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/foo...yers/5535.html

BIOGRAPHY: Former tight end who moved to offensive tackle as a sophomore then started the next three seasons. All-Conference selection after his junior and senior campaigns. Used on both the left and right side.

POSITIVES: Athletic college tackle who's at his best in confined quarters. Blocks with a wide base, shows good knee-bend, and effective with his hands. Jolts opponents with a violent hand-punch, stays square, and seals the edge with good body positioning. Gets out to the second level and annihilates linebackers. Patient in pass protection, can adjust to opponents, and keeps his feet moving. Does enough to ride defenders from their angle of attack.

NEGATIVES: Lacks top lateral blocking range. At times lazy with his hands.

ANALYSIS: Brown is a well-built blocker who has displayed a variety of skills the past three years. He offers potential in a zone blocking scheme, yet he could also thrive in a power-running offense when he physically matures.
his slide step is excellent which flies in the face of lacking lateral range, cause thats excatly what a slide step accomplishes is lateral recovery range.
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