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Old 12-28-2007   #21
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I am not going to parse his statement other than to say that he was already better in yr one than Carr was in any of his 5 years, and according to the Carr lovers on this board, it takes 5 yrs to get the right players around a QB and determine how good he is, so in my book Matt has 4 more years to prove himself.

4 More Years! 4 More Years!
Not exactly accurate. Schaub's 11 starts this season are actually statistically comparable to Carr's 16 starts in 2004. Schaub took fewer sacks and only averages .2 more YPP than Carr did 2004. Schaub has a higher Comp.% than Carr did in 2004, but was also on pace to throw more INTs and just as many TDs as Carr did.

None-the-less, based on Carr's entire career...I would say that Schaub is, at least, a fair improvement over Carr. However, being better than David was doesn't say a lot about one's ability. At best, David was an average QB. At worst...well, negative five yards passing. Schaub needs to improve.
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The nature's Kubiak's statements seem to suggest that he needs Schaub to get his ass in gear by next season. The statement "we can't wait three or four years" would seem to suggest that Schaub left a lot of questions unanswered in the eyes of Kubiak. Coach Kubes' words would, to me, sounds like he may be questioning exactly how long the team will be able to count on Schaub to win games.

Now, make no mistake, I am all for Schaub getting his chance next year. Hopefully with better tools and a much improved offensive line and perhaps a defense that can put him back on the field.Despite a lot of flaws, he does have potential. At the very least, we should milk him for all he's worth given how much we paid for him. However, with all of that said, Kubiak is right...we don't have David Carr like time to waste on sub-standard players. I would say that if week five rolls around, and Schaub is not playing up to expectations, or if he is injured again, then I would say that job should go to Rosenfels, permanently.
The same could be said for Rosenfelds.............What's interesting is that Schaub has more NFL game-time experience than Rosenfels:

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Why does any thread that has the name Schaub in the title have to de-evolve into an already beaten into the ground debate over whether Schaub is better than Sage?

It's getting old folks, and it isn't going to be answered before July of next year.

I think from here on out the Sage and Schaub camp should just agree to disagree until practice and playing can be done again next season.

I for one will not defend Schaub to anybody else on this board or any other board for that matter. I do admit to having faith that Schaub will get better while Rosenfels will always throw lots of picks but that's just me.

I think that Schaubs flaws can easily be repaired by a decent QB coach. I think that we were also spoiled by David Carr (If you can say that) because he was able to take so many hits and get back up. I don't think he's too fragile yet, but the concern is there.

But most of all he shows a lot more potential, to me, than anybody else playing QB for the Texans.
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Why does any thread that has the name Schaub in the title have to de-evolve into an already beaten into the ground debate over whether Schaub is better than Sage?
Just throw the name Carr into it and see what happens.
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The name that can't be spoken was mentioned in the second to last paragraph
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