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Old 12-15-2007   #1
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Does anyone know where to find our red zone statistics? How many attempts and the results? Also, can we find it broken down by QB? I've got a buddy that was asking me about Schaub and Rosenfels, and I can't find the thread that I thought mentioned these specific game stats.

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I don't know where to find the statistics, but I think you'll be better served looking for redzone statistics with Andre Johnson and without Andre Johnson.
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Ten bucks says Rosenfels is better in the RZ....
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Matt Schaub's red zone stats:

53.3% - 5 TD - 1 INT - 89.4 QBR

Sage Rosenfels red zone stats:

78.9% - 8 TD - 0 INT - 125.3 QBR
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Matt Schaub's red zone stats:

53% - 5 TD - 1 INT - 89.4 QBR

Sage Rosenfels red zone stats:

78.9% - 8 TD - 0 INT - 125.3 QBR
Sweet Jesus Mary and Joseph.

So when does a QB discussion become a QB controversy?

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Sweet Jesus Mary and Joseph.

So when does a QB discussion become a QB controversy?

When Andre Johnson is not playing with either QB you will have a better sample of data to spark a controversy.
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When Andre Johnson is not playing with either QB you will have a better sample of data to spark a controversy.
This is true. Regardless, there will be intense discussion about this in the off season, I am sure.

I can't wait!

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Default Re: Red zone stats

I really think that in the minds of the coaching staff, there is no discussion. Matt was brought in to be our franchise QB and he lost his job from an injury, not performance. What Sage is showing us is that he is one of the best backup QB's in the league and can step in when necessary. Matt has shown us that when he has a healthy team, he is a top 10 QB in the league.
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If Sage starts, has a good game, and wins against Indy, it's gonna be a very interesting off season.
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...I think you'll be better served looking for redzone statistics with Andre Johnson and without Andre Johnson.
Matt in RZ with AJ: 66.7% - 4 TD - 0 INT - 122.5 QBR
Sage in RZ with AJ: 80.0% - 3 TD - 0 INT - 125.8 QBR

Stats include a spike by Matt in RZ to stop clock. Doesn't include a red zone fumble by Sage in TB game, or the rushing TD Sage had in Broncos game.
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I think if Rosenfels were younger we'd have a QB controversy. By the offseason, we still might. Right now we still don't.
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Matt in RZ with AJ: 66.7% - 4 TD - 0 INT - 122.5 QBR
Sage in RZ with AJ: 80.0% - 3 TD - 0 INT - 125.8 QBR

Stats include a spike by Matt in RZ to stop clock. Doesn't include a red zone fumble by Sage in TB game, or the rushing TD Sage had in Broncos game.
Friggin AJ is flat out money.
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I think Carr was a little better.
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I don't want to even talk about it.
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Friggin AJ is flat out money.
Of course, the Sage Supporters will say that Rosenfels doesn't need AJ to get-r-done.

Forgetting the numbers, my observation is that Matt plays more "coached" than Sage, and is better in the pocket. Sage is faster & looser, and can make more plays outside the pocket. With a better offensive line, Matt would look better. With what the Texans have now, Sage's mobility is very helpful.
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Of course, the Sage Supporters will say that Rosenfels doesn't need AJ to get-r-done.

Forgetting the numbers, my observation is that Matt plays more "coached" than Sage, and is better in the pocket. Sage is faster & looser, and can make more plays outside the pocket. With a better offensive line, Matt would look better. With what the Texans have now, Sage's mobility is very helpful.
Holy Bull! We're still talking about getting better in the red zone?

Welcome to Houston, Texas, where the red zones are painted and considered part of the endzones.
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Matt Schaub's red zone stats:

53.3% - 5 TD - 1 INT - 89.4 QBR

Sage Rosenfels red zone stats:

78.9% - 8 TD - 0 INT - 125.3 QBR
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Matt in RZ with AJ: 66.7% - 4 TD - 0 INT - 122.5 QBR
Sage in RZ with AJ: 80.0% - 3 TD - 0 INT - 125.8 QBR

Stats include a spike by Matt in RZ to stop clock. Doesn't include a red zone fumble by Sage in TB game, or the rushing TD Sage had in Broncos game.
Thanks for the information, Lucky!
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are matt's 70 yard td passes to aj included in those figures?
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are matt's 70 yard td passes to aj included in those figures?
Nope, just red zone defined by the situational stats by being in the opponent's side of the field from the 19 yard line through the goal line.
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Any idea how many RZ possessions each QB has? The discussion presented to me was that Sage has more chances in the RZ than Matt, which I disputed.
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