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Old 12-07-2007   #41
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Yea sorry, I was being a smartass when I wrote those.

Reliant as well as Ray Jay are both premium NFL stadiums and both will hold a number of Super Bowls in thier time.

Btw, we have next year's SB and I believe Reliant does in '11, sadly after Miami somehow get's another two.
TB will have 10x more SBs than Houston.

It's Florida... It's a sin not to have a superbowl in any other state.

Sooner or later I'll visit ya'lls stadium and have a looksee.
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it truly is an experience...gorgeous, too!!
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Coaching = Bucs
Defense = Bucs
Offense = Draw
Owner = Bucs (the dude owns ManU which is sick and brought Lombardi to Tampa)
Stadium = Draw (the pirate ship is an NFL icon but Reliant is beautiful and tasteful)
Fans = Texans, as if there was any doubt....

both teams are building through the draft and looking to better times in the future...bucs could make noise this year.

i am no cowboys hater, actually grew up loving Cowboys and Oilers but I think any team that gets to play Divisional Playoff game in Dallas has a good chance to upset the Cowboys. especially a team like the Bucs. Romo is going to choke. No doubt. I think the team who plays in Dallas in the Divisional week has a good shot at getting it done. That thing in Dallas is a powderkeg just ready to explode. Everything is all peach now but that could change in a hurry.
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GOOD luck Buc fans, on any other Sunday!! You do have the cutest coach in the NFL, that's for sure!!


Yes, we do.. You guys have some cuties! on the Texans... we have Barrett Ruud and a few others..

But I'm with you, we do have the hottest coach...



Gruden is way more cuter than Kubiak,
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Ok...how did we go from comparing who has the better roster to who has the cutest coach???
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Ok...how did we go from comparing who has the better roster to who has the cutest coach???
Hmmmm...





I guess it depends on your taste. It will be an interesting coaching matchup because they know each other so well from the Denver-Oakland days.



If games were played on paper, position by position, known players versus known players, the Texans would win zero games.

If you look to common recent opponents, despite putting up a ton of yards, the Bucs required the Saints to pull a Reggie to win their game against them.

The Texans beat the Saints by 13. Even after turning the ball over twice. The first game that Andre Johnson was back.

Generally speaking the Texans are a much better team at home than on the road, which is common for young, inexperienced teams. It can get really really loud in Reliant, because the stadium is so vertical and all the seats are fairly close to the field.

The Texans have had their problems, but if they can reduce the gift turnovers, they can move the ball.

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Old 12-07-2007   #47
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Record (8-4) - Bucs.... Caveat, its in the Nancy Football Conference
GM - TEXANS

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Playing in the NFC, especially in this years NFC South makes this record pretty easy to achieve.

Play the Panthers, Saints and Falcons six times a years and you have at least 5 wins right there.

How many wins would you have playing the likes of the Colts, Jags and Titans twice a year.

Admittedly you don't pick your division, but some are FAR easier than others.
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I couldn't help it...so here goes.

QB - Bucs
RB - Bucs
FB - Bucs
WR - Push
TE - Bucs
OT - Bucs
OG - Bucs
C - Bucs

DE - Bucs
DT - Bucs
OLB - Bucs
MLB - Bucs
CB - Bucs
FS - Bucs
SS - Bucs

K - Bucs
P - Bucs

Head Coach - Bucs
Offensive Assistants - Bucs
Defensive Coordinator - Bucs
Defensive Assistants - Bucs

Record (8-4) - Bucs

GM - Bucs
Owner - Bucs

Stadium - Bucs
City/Area - Bucs
hahahahahahaha. ha.

QB: push
RB: Bucs
FB: push
WR: Texans
TE: push
OL: Bucs

DE: Texans
DT: Texans
MLB: Texans Texans
OLB: push
CB: Bucs (since Dunta is injured)
S: Bucs

The Bucs are super overrated if you judge based on the win/loss record. The only reason yall won last Sunday is because the Saints gift wrapped it for ya. Tampa Bay is no better than Houston. Id say this game is a toss up. Galloway will probably burn us at least once, if Garcia is healthy he will be a concern also. The rookie runningback looked pretty good last week, but then again it was against the Saints run defense.

ps Gruden is a bad coach. Most unfortunate for you guys that your record probably saved his job.
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Old 12-07-2007   #49
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hahahahahahaha. ha.

QB: push
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FB: push
WR: Texans
TE: push
OL: Bucs

DE: Texans
DT: Texans
MLB: Texans Texans
OLB: push
CB: Bucs (since Dunta is injured)
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The Bucs are super overrated if you judge based on the win/loss record. The only reason yall won last Sunday is because the Saints gift wrapped it for ya. Tampa Bay is no better than Houston. Id say this game is a toss up. Galloway will probably burn us at least once, if Garcia is healthy he will be a concern also. The rookie runningback looked pretty good last week, but then again it was against the Saints run defense.

ps Gruden is a bad coach. Most unfortunate for you guys that your record probably saved his job.
Mr PC, there is no way our defensive front seven is better than the Buc's.
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Mr PC, there is no way our defensive front seven is better than the Buc's.
I was probably exaggerating when I said OLB was a push. Even though he is aging and lost a step D. Brooks is still a great player. Other than that I think our front 7 is definitely comparable to Tampa Bay in terms of personel. Mario, Johnson, Amobi, Meco, Clark are nasty. The defensive coordinator and lack of safety support hurts the production of the front 7 for the Texans, but they are beastly.
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Default Re: Are the Bucs Really a Better Team Than the Texans?

Mario is emerging but he is not better by himself than the ends that the Bucs have.

TJ is a much improved player but doesn't make much of an impact really, Okoye has faded really badly and is just a pup.

Demeco is great, that is a given, but our OLB's are rubbish, just rubbish.
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Mario is emerging but he is not better by himself than the ends that the Bucs have.

TJ is a much improved player but doesn't make much of an impact really, Okoye has faded really badly and is just a pup.

Demeco is great, that is a given, but our OLB's are rubbish, just rubbish.
No sir, Danny Clark has played very well for this team. Greenwood is overpaid but he is not a liability out there, he is average. The Texans OLBs are of acceptable quality, you are underrating them considerably if you think they are rubbish.
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My eyes tell me that Demeco makes so many tackles because the other LB's aren't around the ball.

Either Demeco is just that darn good, or the others just aren't up to it. Being 25th in rush defense seems to add to that conviction too.
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Yeah, our OLBs are acceptable rubbish. Acceptable!

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My eyes tell me that Demeco makes so many tackles because the other LB's aren't around the ball.

Either Demeco is just that darn good, or the others just aren't up to it. Being 25th in rush defense seems to add to that conviction too.
I think 25th in rush defense has to do with our safeties being out of position and giving up 50+ yard runs, that tends to inflate the stats. I wouldnt rate either one of our our OLB as anything less than average players. Ive seen Danny Clark make a bunch of big plays on defense, while Greenwood has looked decidedly average. Ryans is everywhere but thats not because the OLB suck its because he is just that good. I really hope the Texans resign Clark because he has made a positive impact on the field.
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I think 25th in rush defense has to do with our safeties being out of position and giving up 50+ yard runs, that tends to inflate the stats. I wouldnt rate either one of our our OLB as anything less than average players. Ive seen Danny Clark make a bunch of big plays on defense, while Greenwood has looked decidedly average. Ryans is everywhere but thats not because the OLB suck its because he is just that good. I really hope the Texans resign Clark because he has made a positive impact on the field.
Actually, I'm glad to hear you say that, because I do get most of my information from this website and sometimes I think there's too many of US repeating each other.

Don't think I won't be an expert again next time I post though.
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You guys can keep Ricky, I mean Barrett Rudd (Ruud)- We'll happily keep DeMeco.

I do like the pirate ship - reminds of when I was 5 years old and wanted to be a pirate when I grew up.
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I think 25th in rush defense has to do with our safeties being out of position and giving up 50+ yard runs, that tends to inflate the stats. I wouldnt rate either one of our our OLB as anything less than average players. Ive seen Danny Clark make a bunch of big plays on defense, while Greenwood has looked decidedly average. Ryans is everywhere but thats not because the OLB suck its because he is just that good. I really hope the Texans resign Clark because he has made a positive impact on the field.
It can't help that the offense has been careless with the ball.

The more times you are on the field, the more likely the defensive stats will suffer. You get behind in games, and then teams will run on you.*














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Playing in the NFC, especially in this years NFC South makes this record pretty easy to achieve.

Play the Panthers, Saints and Falcons six times a years and you have at least 5 wins right there.

How many wins would you have playing the likes of the Colts, Jags and Titans twice a year.

Admittedly you don't pick your division, but some are FAR easier than others.
I couldn't agree with you more, kiwi. We play in the toughest division in all of the NFL, and I don't say that just because I'm a Texans fan. At 5-7, the Texans would be in 2nd place in the NFC South.
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Ya the Bucs might be better but who knows we will see tomorrow what happends. I like the Bucs fans and Tampa seems like a nice city but it is full of old people and not that exciting.
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