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Old 11-01-2007   #1
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Default Texans free agents: 2008

So, who do you keep...who do you let go:

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RB - Ron Dayne
RB - Samkon Gado (R)
RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
TE - Mark Bruener
G/T - Scott Jackson (R)
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Tim Bulman (R)
DT - Cedric Killings
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB - Charlie Anderson
LB - Danny Clark
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Roc Alexander
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl
S - Jason Simmons
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

The restricted guys will probably stay (or get cut) because no team will give up a draft pick for them. Everyone else is completely expendable. The only guy on that list making any sort of contribution is Andre Davis and I doubt that he will want to stay in Houston and will probably get a nice offer from another team. The only other guy with value might be Chris Taylor, but that's yet to be determined.
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

Keep:
RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
G/T - Scott Jackson (R)
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Tim Bulman (R)
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB - Danny Clark
CB - Jason Horton (R)
S - C.C. Brown (R)

Could someone give me a quick refresher on Exclusive Rights Free AGents while we're on topic?
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

Exclusive rights free agent are player with less than 3 complete years whose contract expired. The team holds their rights and unless the team refuses to sign the player, these are automatic resigns for whatever the minimum.
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

http://www.houstontexans.com/team/Roster.html

Scott Jackosn and Samkon Gado are no longer on the roster.

Keep:
RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Cedric Killings
LB - Danny Clark
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Dexter Wynn
S - C.C. Brown (R)
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

There are some on that list that I'd say "Keep" and some that I'd scrap in a second. On the other hand, I don't know if maybe the best way to eliminate the culture of losing is to clean house.

I suppose I'd keep Taylor and Mathis. Weary. Kalu. Andre Davis. Everyone else I just find myself saying "Meh." It would be easier to make decisions based on the defense if we could see someone else other than Dick Smith call the schemes and plays.

By the way, I would let the safeties on the list go. I heard that Matt Stevens has been working out and is in great shape - we could sign him.
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Cool Re: Texans free agents: 2008

Keep (assuming there is someone better to play the spot, people left off are names people I don't think should be starters):


RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
TE - Mark Bruener
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Cedric Killings
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn
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There are some on that list that I'd say "Keep" and some that I'd scrap in a second. On the other hand, I don't know if maybe the best way to eliminate the culture of losing is to clean house.

I suppose I'd keep Taylor and Mathis. Weary. Kalu. Andre Davis. Everyone else I just find myself saying "Meh." It would be easier to make decisions based on the defense if we could see someone else other than Dick Smith call the schemes and plays.

By the way, I would let the safeties on the list go. I heard that Matt Stevens has been working out and is in great shape - we could sign him.
Mark me down as thinking what you're thinking.
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

I would keep these guys at least through training camp.

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RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
TE - Mark Bruener
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB - Charlie Anderson
LB - Danny Clark
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Roc Alexander
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
S - Glenn Earl
S - Jason Simmons
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

I think Bruener is done here, unless they need a comfortable face or his locker room presence.
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I think Bruener is done here, unless they need a comfortable face or his locker room presence.
I guess he's like our Brad Ausmus
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

If the Texans pick up a CB/Safety tandem through the draft/free agency, then likely one or two of these guys is gone:

CB - Roc Alexander
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl
S - Jason Simmons

Alexander and Simmons?
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

Since we only have 3 wins thus far and I'm not picking us to win too many more games, all are expendable.

I'd like to see us keep:
WR - Andre Davis
LB - Danny Clark

Not sure yet. He's always injured.
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
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If the Texans pick up a CB/Safety tandem through the draft/free agency, then likely one or two of these guys is gone:

CB - Roc Alexander
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl
S - Jason Simmons

Alexander and Simmons?
I'd like to keep alot of these strong safeties on the roster and have a real big competition for SS next year. None of the safeties we have can play FS so we might as well get the best out of the safeties we have.

Horton seems like the weak link of those weak link CBs.
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Default Re: Texans free agents: 2008

I'd like the bolded guys to be here during training camp 2008:

RB - Ron Dayne
RB - Samkon Gado (R)
RB - Chris Taylor (E) Should be playing for this team right now.
WR - Andre Davis 21 rec. 390 yards 2 TDs. Earned himself a spot on this team.
WR - Jerome Mathis (R) Even if he plays 1/4 of the season is it worth a WR 6 spot to have him KR?
TE - Mark Bruener May be his last year with us as Runner said. Still worth keeping for us IMO.
G/T - Scott Jackson (R)
G - Fred Weary It may be about time to find Weary's replacement but keep him.
DE - Earl Cochran (R) Need DEs.
DE - N.D. Kalu Seems to get pressure when he plays and plays with a fire. Honest guy too. Keeper.
DT - Tim Bulman (R)
DT - Cedric Killings
DT - Anthony Maddox Good backup to have. We need another backup DT though.
LB - Charlie Anderson
LB - Danny Clark Should be a backup. We need more LBs and someone needs to challenge Clark.
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Roc Alexander Better than these other scrub CBs but not worth much.
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn Safety KR guy. Shouldn't be on the team. We need more CBs.
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl Let these 3 guys battle with Boulware and Harrison for the SS spots next year.
S - Jason Simmons

The rest I would like to see replaced by others. It's time to rid ourselves of Charlie Anderson and Shantee Orr. Two guys drafted to be 3-4 linebackers and haven't been able to crack the lineup on our weak linebacking crew. It's also time to rid ourselves of Ron Dayne.

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these are who i would keep

RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB - Charlie Anderson
LB - Danny Clark
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Von Hutchins
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl
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The bolded players can stay. The rest can go. It's time for an enema! Let Smith bring players in worth a crap via FA and draft.


RB - Ron Dayne
RB - Samkon Gado (R)
RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
TE - Mark Bruener
G/T - Scott Jackson (R)
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Tim Bulman (R)
DT - Cedric Killings
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB - Charlie Anderson
LB - Danny Clark
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Roc Alexander
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl
S - Jason Simmons
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The bolded players can stay. The rest can go. It's time for an enema! Let Smith bring players in worth a crap via FA and draft.


RB - Ron Dayne
RB - Samkon Gado (R)
RB - Chris Taylor (E)
WR - Andre Davis
WR - Jerome Mathis (R)
TE - Mark Bruener
G/T - Scott Jackson (R)
G - Fred Weary
DE - Earl Cochran (R)
DE - N.D. Kalu
DT - Tim Bulman (R)
DT - Cedric Killings
DT - Anthony Maddox
LB - Charlie Anderson
LB - Danny Clark
LB -Shawntee Orr
CB - Roc Alexander
CB - Jason Horton (R)
CB - Von Hutchins
CB - Dexter Wynn
S - C.C. Brown (R)
S - Glenn Earl
S - Jason Simmons
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