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Old 10-30-2007   #1
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Default Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

From PFT, FWIW, POSTED 4:26 p.m. EDT, October 30, 2007


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HOUSTON IN HOT WATER OVER GREEN DEACTIVATION?

We suppose it shouldn't be surprising to anyone that Texans coach Gary Kubiak might be in a little trouble for an injury reporting violation. After all, Kubiak was the offensive coordinator in Denver, and he learned at the knee of Mike Shanahan, who has been in trouble in the past for fudging the injury reports.

Just last night, for example, the Broncos continued to list safety John Lynch as "probable" to return to the game, even after he was spectating with his pads off. But, in NFL parlance, "probable" means "virtual certainty." The only thing Lynch was virtually certain to do was not re-enter the game.

Kubiak and the Texans might be in trouble over the manner in which the team handled running back Ahman Green in Week Eight against the Chargers. He was listed as "probable" (i.e., virtual certainty) for Sunday's game at San Diego with a knee injury. Green participated in practice on a limited basis on Wednesday and Thursday of last week, and fully participated in practice on Friday.

Come Sunday, however, Green was deactivated.

Per NFL spokesman Greg Aiello, the league office is looking into the situation. And we take that to mean that there was no Saturday downgrading of Green to questionable, doubtful, or out.

Stay tuned.

Meanwhile, this is as good as spot as any to share the Mike Shanahan in-game injury reporting definitions, which a reader forwarded to us last night during the Live Blog of the Packers-Broncos Monday nighter.

Probable -- player is at the game.

Questionable -- player is at the hospital.

Doubtful -- player is deceased.

Out -- player has been cremated (or he failed a lie detector about being dead).
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Old 10-30-2007   #2
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Default Re: Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

So much for the goodie goodie two shoes image.

Just my thoughts but is the shadow of his former self Green really going to impact the opposition's gameplan any?? I think not.

Green or Dayne, the answer is the same, Texans cannot run the ball, kill the QB.
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Default Re: Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

Shanny generally had reasons to do this sort of trickery. He had players good enough to eat up a healthy amount of the opponents practices by having to game plan for multiple options.

Kube's on the other hand... I don't really get the whole way we disguise injuries the way we do. No team is scrambling to hold Ahman in check anymore, and I'm damn sure no one is scared of Ronnie. Plus there is no tape on Ichy so no time wasted preparing for him.
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Default Re: Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

Should just do what Belichek does. List everyone probable.
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Default Re: Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

Yesterday on Kubiak's show, Gary said he knew for sure Friday that Ahman wouldn't play. Ahman was listed as probable Saturday. I am sure that him admitting the team lied on the radio probably wasn't a good idea.
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Yesterday on Kubiak's show, Gary said he knew for sure Friday that Ahman wouldn't play. Ahman was listed as probable Saturday. I am sure that him admitting the team lied on the radio probably wasn't a good idea.
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For the Texans' office and coaching staff:

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Oh what a tangled web we weave,
When first we practise to deceive!
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Always tell the truth. That way, you don't have to remember what you said.
Mark Twain

This next quote I came across in book by Carl Sagan may be quite applicable to many of us long-term faithful Texans fans...............

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One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we've been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. The bamboozle has captured us. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.
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Yesterday on Kubiak's show, Gary said he knew for sure Friday that Ahman wouldn't play. Ahman was listed as probable Saturday. I am sure that him admitting the team lied on the radio probably wasn't a good idea.
The team can't even cheat well,
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I think the Texans will get by on this. They have a strong, proven track record of not knowing how badly a player is injured.
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Default Re: Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

So does the NFL care b/c of the competition factor or because of the bookies. Seriously, would San Diego give a rat's @$$ whether Green played or not?
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Shanny generally had reasons to do this sort of trickery. He had players good enough to eat up a healthy amount of the opponents practices by having to game plan for multiple options.

Kube's on the other hand... I don't really get the whole way we disguise injuries the way we do. No team is scrambling to hold Ahman in check anymore, and I'm damn sure no one is scared of Ronnie. Plus there is no tape on Ichy so no time wasted preparing for him.
Let me help you. Kubes is practising for when he does have good players. Eventually we will draft an rb in latter rounds that can get 1,000 yards in this system. Sherman on the other hand, is researching former Gbay players from the 90s that we could bring on board.
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Should just do what Belichek does. List everyone probable.
Video tape the side lines? Whats the point, we still couldnt cover anyone.
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Default Re: Green De-activation: Texans in Hot Water?

I've decided that I'm probable for reading this thread.

Oops...never mind, I just got downgraded to questionable.
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