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Old 10-06-2006   #441
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How many Sacks or QB pressures or negative rushes has the GB O-line given up this year? Is it more or less than the Houston O-line has given up?
That is totally irrelevant...Im not going to even look that up.....Once again...Stats don't tell the whole story....If you want to beleive that 2 rookies, and a second yr center are better than what we have ....go ahead....
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First of all, there is no way Morency is Faster than Gado...

For those of you who missed the Detroit game last year, Gado's 64 yard td run where he outran the two safeties that had the angle pretty much proved his legit 4.3.

Morency may have more shake and bake than Gado, but not more speed.

The line play has been incredibly terrible every time Gado has gotten the slightest chance of a touch.

Again, mark my words....you guys will be singing Gado's praises before this is over. The same progression happened last year in Green Bay....every one hated him at first, then when he got into some rhythm and got some carries he was golden.

And don't tell me he got his chance vs. Miami. He played the second series, which ended abruptly with the weird turnover/strip play, and on his second, the team's fourth series...they went incomplete, incomplete, third and long....

Gado scores on the long run by dayne that got called back for holding...

Again, bookmark this thread....and when Gado rushes for 150 yards vs either Dallas or Tennessee come back and post comments here.
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I am i'll! Kubes has his vision of a RB. Capers and Kubes did not think Morency had what it takes.

I always thought Morency had average vision, but tremendous burst.
I hope the guy does well in Green Bay. If he wasn't what Kubiak wanted, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY hope his idea of a running back shows up very soon.
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Default Re: Trade: Samkon Gado for Vernand Morency

The Texans should have a decent shot at drafting Kenny Irons out of Auburn. Domanick Davis is finished.
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First of all, there is no way Morency is Faster than Gado...

For those of you who missed the Detroit game last year, Gado's 64 yard td run where he outran the two safeties that had the angle pretty much proved his legit 4.3.

Morency may have more shake and bake than Gado, but not more speed.


The line play has been incredibly terrible every time Gado has gotten the slightest chance of a touch.

Again, mark my words....you guys will be singing Gado's praises before this is over. The same progression happened last year in Green Bay....every one hated him at first, then when he got into some rhythm and got some carries he was golden.

And don't tell me he got his chance vs. Miami. He played the second series, which ended abruptly with the weird turnover/strip play, and on his second, the team's fourth series...they went incomplete, incomplete, third and long....

Gado scores on the long run by dayne that got called back for holding...

Again, bookmark this thread....and when Gado rushes for 150 yards vs either Dallas or Tennessee come back and post comments here.
The difference in Morency's speed and Gado's speed is a small fraction......Morency also makes people miss, that is way more important than a hair of a 40 time. Making people miss is the name of the game for runningbacks. Walter Payton wasn't that big and he wasn't very fast, he made people miss, ran hard and went on to set a record that no one though would be broken. E. Smith wasn't that big and he didn't have world class speed, but he made people miss and went on to break that unbreakable record. 40 times are the most overrated measurable in sports.

Running the ball is about elusiveness, quickness, and burst.

Morency has more elusiveness, quickness, and burst.

DD had those qualities, thats the reason why he was so successful here, especially for a 4th rounder.

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Default Re: Trade: Samkon Gado for Vernand Morency

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The difference in Morency's speed and Gado's speed is a small fraction......Morency also makes people miss, that is way more important than a hair of a 40 time. Making people miss is the name of the game for runningbacks. Walter Payton wasn't that big and he wasn't very fast, he made people miss, ran hard and went on to set a record that no one though would be broken. E. Smith wasn't that big and he didn't have world class speed, but he made people miss and went on to break that unbreakable record. 40 times are the most overrated measurable in sports.

Running the ball is about elusiveness, quickness, and burst.

Morency has more elusiveness, quickness, and burst.

DD had those qualities, thats the reason why he was so successful here, especially for a 4th rounder.
There are actually several kinds of runningbacks..... depending on your system, & personnell, those other kinds may prove to be more productive. There was some guy named JohnRiggins(I believe) who wasn't very elusive, but broke records set by GayleSayers.

We also have a brutish type back who breaks tackles that morency would have to avoid, or succomb to. He also holds the career NCAAF rushing record.
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There are actually several kinds of runningbacks..... depending on your system, & personnell, those other kinds may prove to be more productive. There was some guy named JohnRiggins(I believe) who wasn't very elusive, but broke records set by GayleSayers.

We also have a brutish type back who breaks tackles that morency would have to avoid, or succomb to. He also holds the career NCAAF rushing record.
Riggins was a powerback. He ran over people. Gibbs loved him because he forced the oppisition to stack the box, then he was able to run his smurfs all over the field.

I don't see anybody on our team running people over right now.

I like Gado and hope he does well, he's a Texan now, I just don't buy into the theory that just because he has more top end speed than Morency that he's the better back.
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Go to www.packers.com and watch the highlights from the oh-so talked about 100 yard game and watch for the highlights of Morency. You'll see only one play that made the highlight reel....a fumble inside his own five.

I am telling you...based on last year's performances for the Packers, NOT, 40 times, Gado has proven he is a bona-fide every down back in the NFL.

And its not all about elusiveness. The way the eagles and falcons ration their carries to their 'elusive' 180-pound tailbacks is really the reason they keep coming up short in the playoffs.

The NFL running back is more about what you do with your 19th carry through your 27th carry. IF a team is good enough in the box to warrant you getting 20 carries....what kind of physical shape is your body in to deliver the type of performance you delivered in the first quarter?

That is where Gado will shine. There is not a player in the NFL in better physical shape than this kid. His first real game for the Pack he had 26 carries versus the Steelers and got physically pounded. He got better as the game wore on.

The DB's don't want to tackle this guy. Try and find the eagles highlights from last year's game versus the packers...and watch Dawkins (all-pro Dawkins) dive at his feet ... No one wants to tackle the guy once he has a head of steam.

The difference between Dayne and Gado is they both instill fear in the would be tackler, but Dayne seeks out that tackler and tries to run him over...Gado just outruns him and if he gets in the way he makes him pay.

Seriously, before you act like Morency is the better back you need to see film on last year's Falcon, Lions, Steelers, and Eagles games.

Who had the most rushing yards versus the steelers last year in a single game???

GADO~!
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Noah Herron comes off the bench today for the Packers and rushes for 100 yards. Evidently, the Packers didn't feel like Morency's fumble in the first quarter was something they were willing to tolerate...and actually they were.

It was his second fumble in the half that got him benched.

That's 25 carries - 3 fumbles???
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Default Re: Trade: Samkon Gado for Vernand Morency

Morency has one and favre has one fumble according to NFL.com

Yahoo just showed 2 fumbes but only showed Morency in the stats.

I didn't know Morency was fumble prone coming out of college, but that is not a good thing
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Again, mark my words....you guys will be singing Gado's praises before this is over. The same progression happened last year in Green Bay....every one hated him at first, then when he got into some rhythm and got some carries he was golden.
18 carries and I havent seen anything golden or any type of rhythm at all.

Glad Gado was released today.
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Gado made a living off of one MNF game with Green Bay. I am glad he is gone because I was tired of Waiting for Gado.

I just threw up in my mouth after reading this thread.
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ive been away all week...and couldn't believe this story...ive supported kubiak with all his other decisions but ive got to say- i hate this 1
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gado, from what i saw of him last year, is honest but limited...hes not fast on film and his moves are limited...im trying to make sense of the move but i just dont see it...plus im down already from last weekend and my optimism is fading fast....
hated it then, hated it now
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i wonder what will become of samkonfan and his crazy garuntees though
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i wonder what will become of samkonfan and his crazy garuntees though
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Samkon Gado has a big run in the first half early, gets most of the reps and rushes for over a 100 yards. He is still raw but a better upside to him than Dayne. Gado has the power and speed that Houston needs to be an every down back
btw he finished with 4 carries for 5 yards... must've been saving that power and speed for later
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Gado made a living off of one MNF game with Green Bay. I am glad he is gone because I was tired of Waiting for Gado.

I just threw up in my mouth after reading this thread.
Is that the football version of Waiting for Godot?
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