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Old 10-20-2007   #61
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I hate to burst your bubble, but as long as Kubiak and Rick Smith keep trying to be like Denver I don't think we will draft a RB in the first round.
I hate to burst your bubble bursting but I don't think they're trying that hard to be like Denver. If they're up in the first round and there's a good running back that they really like staring them in the face, I think they'll take him. From all reports I've heard, Kubiak was really considering trying to trade up to get Maroney a couple of drafts ago.
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Old 10-20-2007   #62
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We shall see, I hope that's the case. I would hate us to pass up a great player with our pick especially if we have a need at the position. I just have a feeling they will avoid RB's in the first. Do you think they would have drafted Adrian Peterson if he fell one more spot to us, or still gone with Okoye?
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We shall see, I hope that's the case. I would hate us to pass up a great player with our pick especially if we have a need at the position. I just have a feeling they will avoid RB's in the first. Do you think they would have drafted Adrian Peterson if he fell one more spot to us, or still gone with Okoye?
I didn't expect either Okoye or Peterson to drop to us at 10.

I think they would have gone with Peterson if he had dropped. BUT. No one really knows for sure. Everyone puts together all these draft forecasts and even the "experts" never get it right. I mean... not very many people were expecting the Vikes to take Peterson, the Redskins to take Landry, or the Dolphins to skip Quinn and take Ginn.
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I dunno what your definition of "our year" would be, but I think its premature
to conclude that this year is a success, failure, or break-even at this point.
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We shall see, I hope that's the case. I would hate us to pass up a great player with our pick especially if we have a need at the position. I just have a feeling they will avoid RB's in the first. Do you think they would have drafted Adrian Peterson if he fell one more spot to us, or still gone with Okoye?
first, AP would have had to drop three spots as he was drafted #7 and we picked at #10

second, assuming both were available, I think we would still have gone with Okoye. We had already signed Green in the off-season and I'd bet money that, at draft time, Kubiak was thinking his RB stable was going to consist of Green, Taylor, and Dayne (so help me I don't know what Kubiak sees in him). Gado, Lundy, and Walker were there to push any slackers (Dayne) off the squad.

Unfortunately, Taylor went down way early, Green can't stay on the field, Gado is hot and cold (mostly cold), and sadly, Dayne is who we, the fans, thought he was.

I hope Kubiak keeps to his philosophy of not depending on anyone that's on currently IR to ever return and drafts accordingly. By that I mean he drafts to replace Charles Spencer, Brandon Harrison, and Chris Taylor. I like all three guys, but it remains to be seen if either of them will reach the pre-injury potential.
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This guys, is not our year. This is a nice product, but its still in beta so to speak. Lets not forget we have a boatload of money to spend next year. Next year we can adress most of the weaknesses we have on this team all in one offseason. When I said this was a sub .500 team, this is what I was talking about. The good news is that this team is on the rise.
Another fan giving up and using the "wait until next year" dodge. Pretty soon someone will be saying "Let's lose as many as we can so we can get a better draft pick".
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I hate to burst your bubble bursting but I don't think they're trying that hard to be like Denver. If they're up in the first round and there's a good running back that they really like staring them in the face, I think they'll take him. From all reports I've heard, Kubiak was really considering trying to trade up to get Maroney a couple of drafts ago.
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We shall see, I hope that's the case. I would hate us to pass up a great player with our pick especially if we have a need at the position. I just have a feeling they will avoid RB's in the first. Do you think they would have drafted Adrian Peterson if he fell one more spot to us, or still gone with Okoye?
Pencil is right--they are more than willing to take a RB in the 1st and the "Denver" rule needs to die a merciful death.

The Texans tried to trade to get the 26th pick to get DeAngelo Williams by offering 2nd and 4th round picks. That would have been Demeco and Owen Daniels by the way. Buffalo offered their 2nd and 3rd round picks. To match we would have had to give up Demeco and Winston. Either way we would have lost two starters, but the episode shows they were willing to pay a stiff price and they have no rule against 1st round RBs.
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Pencil is right--they are more than willing to take a RB in the 1st and the "Denver" rule needs to die a merciful death.

The Texans tried to trade to get the 26th pick to get DeAngelo Williams by offering 2nd and 4th round picks. That would have been Demeco and Owen Daniels by the way. Buffalo offered their 2nd and 3rd round picks. To match we would have had to give up Demeco and Winston. Either way we would have lost two starters, but the episode shows they were willing to pay a stiff price and they have no rule against 1st round RBs.
This is what we need to do this year. That or get a corner. These two positions along with our offensive line seem to be seriously lacking.
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