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Old 10-15-2007   #121
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Who was our guy that got bullied by a TE?
Didn't catch the name on the back of his jersey, because he was flat on his back in the end zone..
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Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
Thanks for explaining the play. It shows you what you get from 610. I just was in and out during game time.
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Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
The question is, under the "recent" (as in last few years) changes, isn't there a no-touch rule in place beyond 5 yards?

If the LB can't touch the TE beyond 5, wouldn't the reverse be true?
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The question is, under the "recent" (as in last few years) changes, isn't there a no-touch rule in place beyond 5 yards?

If the LB can't touch the TE beyond 5, wouldn't the reverse be true?
No... Not necessarily. First, rules are written to favor the offensive player and second, the contact was initiated at the line of scrimmage - not beyond 5 yards.
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8-58 vs. 3-28.
kind of like the Atlanta game we had 7-78 and they had 2-20, but they had different referees...both crews I-N-C-O-M-P-E-T-E-N-T
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Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
by that you mean H-E-L-D
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No doubt the refs didn't help one bit, but the jags took it to us today. We had many opportunities to seal the deal on the jags in the first half, but we just couldn't. A fumble by davis at the one yard line, an overthrown pass to KW in the endzone, fumbles by the jags in their own territory. We didn't execute and Jacksonville finally took advantage of it. In my opinion, Kubiak was completely outcoached today on all cylinders. Good ST play on the surprise onside kick, taking chances on 4th down and converting them, and taking advantage of the Texan's defensive weaknesses. I was as mad at the refs as the next guy, but it didn't affect the outcome.
Agree 100%. He admits it too, that is another thing that is great about him as a coach and person.
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by that you mean H-E-L-D
LMAO... no, what I meant was 'owned'!!
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I'm sure Kubiak has already had a conversation with the Official heads today, and it will be a major topic of discussion on his 610 radio show at 5:00. I'll be listening for sure.
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I'm sure Kubiak has already had a conversation with the Official heads today
I would love to have a conversation with the Official's heads.

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I'm with TexansLucky13 on this one. On that delay of game no-call, even the CBS team (whom I think really wanted the Jags to win) wer shocked that it wasn't called.
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My biggest gripe is letting the Jags get a play off about 5 seconds after the playclock reached zero. The other ones were judgement calls and those tend to even out over the course of the season. Hopefully, they are all out of their system by now.
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I'm with TexansLucky13 on this one. On that delay of game no-call, even the CBS team (whom I think really wanted the Jags to win) wer shocked that it wasn't called.
When the officials can't call a D-O-G penalty 3+ seconds after the clock expires, you know it's just not your day. The Officiating crew should get some sort of repremand for that one.
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Everyone is gripping about a no call that cbs pointed out during the game but there were several times there were no calls . Times when we went out of bounds and the clock kept going . It just dont pay to jump into the faces of the refs during the game wait till the end then let them have it . Kubiak deserves all the credit here it is after all hard enough to beat a team but a team and the refs is impossible .
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This is an awesome thread! I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call in a 37-17 football game. Having actually been at the game and having actually watched a broader field than on your little box, there were many times that either team could've been flagged for something. Its called football.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.

Be that as it may, and this is just my opinion, as noted by some of your other ilk, the whinning is disgusting. It is like having to read all the 375 smack against the Colts. Yeah, that 375 is pretty impressive considering the colts won the Super Bowl. I wonder which I would take? Yeah, gimme the trophy.

Very funny thread though. I've been as frustrasted as some of you...I just tend to stay away from the keyboard until I'm less emotional.

Please beat the titans.
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This is an awesome thread! I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call in a 37-17 football game. Having actually been at the game and having actually watched a broader field than on your little box, there were many times that either team could've been flagged for something. Its called football.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.

Be that as it may, and this is just my opinion, as noted by some of your other ilk, the whinning is disgusting. It is like having to read all the 375 smack against the Colts. Yeah, that 375 is pretty impressive considering the colts won the Super Bowl. I wonder which I would take? Yeah, gimme the trophy.

Very funny thread though. I've been as frustrasted as some of you...I just tend to stay away from the keyboard until I'm less emotional.

Please beat the titans.
Not sure if you read all the threads and not just the title, but for the most part everyone is simply complaining about how bad the crew was not that it caused us to lose. Even if we'd won the game we'd still feel the same way. The calls were horrendous that's a fact not an excuse.

The Jags kicked our butts and most of us accept that. We just pointed out extremely obvious bad calls that's all this thread is about.

From what I understand people who were at the game didn't have the replays that we had on the real bad calls. I have also heard from others at the game that they saw quite a bit of holding that was not called. Probably Salaam since he is a consistent culprit.

Course there are a few posts in this thread that are the exception, but most of us are not using it as an excuse.
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This is an awesome thread! I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call in a 37-17 football game. Having actually been at the game and having actually watched a broader field than on your little box, there were many times that either team could've been flagged for something. Its called football.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.

Be that as it may, and this is just my opinion, as noted by some of your other ilk, the whinning is disgusting. It is like having to read all the 375 smack against the Colts. Yeah, that 375 is pretty impressive considering the colts won the Super Bowl. I wonder which I would take? Yeah, gimme the trophy.

Very funny thread though. I've been as frustrasted as some of you...I just tend to stay away from the keyboard until I'm less emotional.

Please beat the titans.
Perhaps you ought to read more carefully, rather than living up to your user name. Reading comprehension is your friend although not required for a major in Kinesiology. I don't recall anyone from this fan base stating that reason for the loss was solely on the officiating. In fact, explore some of the other threads for some very well thought out and lucid explanations of our team's poor performance.
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Perhaps you ought to read more carefully, rather than living up to your user name. Reading comprehension is your friend although not required for a major in Kinesiology. I don't recall anyone from this fan base stating that reason for the loss was solely on the officiating. In fact, explore some of the other threads for some very well thought out and lucid explanations of our team's poor performance.
Living up to your user name? I love it when I can get someone to use the "user name" smack. It reminds me of why I choose it. Thanks Bill! There is a sucker born every minute.

Thanks for the Kinesiology compliment. Although not on my lamb skin, I think I could've gotten a degree in that as well.

Why don't you go back and look at how the progression of the posts manifested and let me know what the spirit of some of those posts are. A good portion note that the calls made an impact. And did I comment that the WHOLE thread and ALL posts were in this spirit? No. How many logical fallacies can you break in one reply?

Did I say solely? I'm sorry, that must've been your reading comprehension. Why don't you quote me where I said "solely". Let me help:

--I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call

I look forward to your accurate "comprehension" of my post.
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Living up to your user name? I love it when I can get someone to use the "user name" smack. It reminds me of why I choose it. Thanks Bill! There is a sucker born every minute.

Thanks for the Kinesiology compliment. Although not on my lamb skin, I think I could've gotten a degree in that as well.

Why don't you go back and look at how the progression of the posts manifested and let me know what the spirit of some of those posts are. A good portion note that the calls made an impact. And did I comment that the WHOLE thread and ALL posts were in this spirit? No. How many logical fallacies can you break in one reply?

Did I say solely? I'm sorry, that must've been your reading comprehension. Why don't you quote me where I said "solely". Let me help:

--I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call

I look forward to your accurate "comprehension" of my post.
Thanks for the laugh.
Got to love those that come out of the woodwork like a cockroach to try and post without reading. The use of double negatives is great, but it does not change the question most are asking about how the call is missed.

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Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.
You complain about Bill's reading and comprehention, but if you are a coach, I am sure we are all thankful you do not coach in Texas. Not one person on here has said the Texans did not get beat and beat badly and soundly. Head slapped a lot? What is your definition of a lot that you teach these kids? Once and it was on accident Williams knocked the defenders arm into the helmet.

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Well it is nice for you to stop by after this game, but it is funny I do not recall you being here at all last year? I wonder why that is, probably like most trolls you only show up after a win. You were not here before the game either, would that mean you had no confidence in your (so called) teams chances until after the game?

Thanks for stopping by glad we could amuse you, but then again most trolls are amused when they do not have much of a knowledge of football just like the players you coach.
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