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Old 10-07-2007   #21
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They almost melted down today like a typical Bud Adams ran franchise.

With the Falcons marching in to take control of the game Harrington throws it behind his receiver and it basically falls into the hands of Fuller who ran it back for a TD. Then they needed to punt the ball away with 2 minutes left and the kicker gets "sacked". Then the Falcons get a 1st and goal right away and can't cash in. They should have lost the game today, the Falcons gave this one away.

3-1 is all that matters, thats true.

I have my obvious bias but it sound like you watched the game. Are you really not going to give credit to the Defense and say the Falcons folded? They gave up 6 points and regularly were backed into a corner. THey played absolutely outstanding.
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A guy at the game today had an old #8 Carr jersey with the Carr taped over and YOUNG written in. I think it is funny to have Schaub written in, but why would you write in Young. He doesn't play here, he didn't get drafted by us, so get over it. I have nothing against him and wish him well professionally, but not against us. Is this guy planning on wearing that to the Titans game??
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Over VY, I'd take....

Manning
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Scratch Brees, put in Hasselbeck.
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I have my obvious bias but it sound like you watched the game. Are you really not going to give credit to the Defense and say the Falcons folded? They gave up 6 points and regularly were backed into a corner. THey played absolutely outstanding.
I switched back and forth during commercials. I have to watch the rivals and root for their opponent. I'll give credit to the defense but not the Special Teams,(in Bill Waltons voice) they were horrible.
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Brees???....the way he is playing right now I'd say a big hell no to that one...I like Matt, but I still wouldn't put him over Vince (I think VY has had the better season thus far) and Hasselback, Palmer, and Cambell aren't all neccessarily a notch above him either.............the main point is that out of all the guys I just listed you can make a argument that Vince is indeed better than all of them.
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Scratch Brees, put in Hasselbeck.
Heck, McNabb (when healthy), Kitna, Garcia, Pennington...
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That isn't a very good game, if you think that is then you are setting the bar very low.
oh how foolish to look at only numbers...
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the main point is that out of all the guys I just listed you can make a argument that Vince is indeed better than all of them.
You could maybe, but I couldn't.
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Brees???....the way he is playing right now I'd say a big hell no to that one...I like Matt, but I still wouldn't put him over Vince (I think VY has had the better season thus far) and Hasselback, Palmer, and Cambell aren't all neccessarily a notch above him either.............the main point is that out of all the guys I just listed you can make a argument that Vince is indeed better than all of them.
No way, I would rather have Matt Schaub........
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oh how foolish to look at only numbers...
I qouted statistics but that doesn't mean I only look at numbers.

Oh how foolish it is to jump to conclusions.
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I switched back and forth during commercials. I have to watch the rivals and root for their opponent. I'll give credit to the defense but not the Special Teams,(in Bill Waltons voice) they were horrible.

Got ya... horrible doesn't begin to describe our Special Teams/Offense today. Special Teams is still a strong point of our team, don't have a problem with them. They gave up two good returns, whiffed on a punt and lost a punt (bad decision by a rook). Two of those were the first of the year for them.

Good win today for you guys, btw.
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No way........

Nevermind, are you talking about Hasselback or Schaub?

Matty didn't play particularly well today either and he didn't look good last week against ATL....I've seen more from Vince (over 16 starts) than Matt (5 starts)...that's why I say VY > Schaub

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Well if that's the case then you would realize that he had more than just an alright game....
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Matty didn't play particularly well today either and he didn't look good last week against ATL....I've seen more from Vince (over 16 starts) than Matt (5 starts)...that's why I say VY > Schaub
I don't understand the people who have been saying that Schaub hasn't looked good the past 2 weeks.

Has he been perfect? No. Has he made some bad throws? Yeah. Has he had bad days the past 2 weeks? No freaking way. He's made a lot of good throws and moved the football. He hasn't made a lot of mistakes. He's looked really, really good.
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oh how foolish to look at only numbers...
No doubt, but its also foolish to ignore them completely. There's just no way a QB can have more turnovers than touchdowns and be doing a good job. I like Vince, but so far this year he has played average to poor. IF the Titans weren't winning, fans would be calling for his head on a stick right now.
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What is VY's best ability? To lead his team despite the score. Did anyone see the Colts game? Do you think any QB can do what Schaub did? He may not be as dangerous as VY, but he's nowhere near as wreckless and he's by far a better passer.
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No doubt, but its also foolish to ignore them completely. There's just no way a QB can have more turnovers than touchdowns and be doing a good job. I like Vince, but so far this year he has played average to poor. IF the Titans weren't winning, fans would be calling for his head on a stick right now.
today's INT numbers really messed up his stats.....VY is not going to be a 300 + QB...but he will be the guy who will give you a solid game (200 yds passing, 50 running, 1 or 2 passing TDs, 1 running), always give you a chance to win and come up big at the last minute......
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I have my obvious bias but it sound like you watched the game. Are you really not going to give credit to the Defense and say the Falcons folded? They gave up 6 points and regularly were backed into a corner. THey played absolutely outstanding.
I agree, The Titan defense doesn't nearly get the credit it deserves. To be quite Honest, the NFL is lucky that Pacman isn't playing because he was stud on the field and a playmaker, yet their defense still seems to be ticking without him.

With that said...VY is going to have a good test against Tampa next week. They are going to be motivated like hell to get a win after losing to Indy like they did, Gruden is a good coach also I think Tampa wins this game and thats off no biases or homerism or hate for the Titans.

That's just off Football, I think Tampa's defense exploits VY. Who knows though, as I said...VY WINS THE GAMES!

Schaub is about as clutch as VY though IMO.

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today's INT numbers really messed up his stats.....VY is not going to be a 300 + QB...but he will be the guy who will give you a solid game (200 yds passing, 50 running, 1 or 2 passing TDs, 1 running), always give you a chance to win and come up big at the last minute......
Take out the word "always" and I agree. Sometimes (like today) he wins in spite of himself. At the same time, if you need a score to win at the end, there's NOBODY I'd rather have at QB.
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Vince Young isn't even the best QB playing in Tennessee... You Vols fans know what I'm talking about.
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Vince Young isn't even the best QB playing in Tennessee... You Vols fans know what I'm talking about.
Unfortunately, so do us Bulldog fans.
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